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04/08/2006 02:14:42 AM · #1 |
But, don't know what to do.
Can you help?
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04/08/2006 02:26:27 AM · #2 |
I wish I could give you an answer, but alas, I have the same kinds of feelings, and don't know myself.
You would think that in this day and age, with instant and world wide communication possible and everything, that like minded individuals could get together and get something going. But perhaps there are not enough like minded individuals around? Maybe there are already too many people trying to change the world, but changing in different directions?
And then there is always the thing that, your idea of change, my idea of change, etc. is not necessarily everybody's concept of the right idea. |
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04/08/2006 02:37:12 AM · #3 |
Ah, Brother Horse... You must go into the desert and seek your Spirit Guide; you will not find him in this place. And you must ask yourself questions: "Why change the world?", for one...
The world, you see, is in fine shape. She will survive us all. She has survived greater cataclysms than we are visiting upon her, in her history. We are just pebbles in the riverbed of time; we are less than nothing, really.
In fact, to voice even the desire to "change the world" smacks of a terrible hubris. You might, perhaps, legitimately seek to change the ways of men, although how you would go about doing this I do not know...
Robt.
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04/08/2006 02:38:11 AM · #4 |
*sigh*..... who's drunk?
oh wait it's just me |
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04/08/2006 02:39:57 AM · #5 |
"Not I!" said the bear, in a righteous tone of voice...
R.
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04/08/2006 02:41:00 AM · #6 |
hehehe! :0)
oh wait I got it... change the world.
You can’t change the world
But you can change the facts
And when you change the facts
You change points of view
If you change points of view
You may change a vote
And when you change a vote
You may change the world
ok these are lyrics and I must admit to never hearing the song, only being passed on the lyrics. But it always rang true....
Message edited by author 2006-04-08 02:48:37. |
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04/08/2006 02:53:42 AM · #7 |
Oh we need not try to change the world for she stays in her orbit while twirling like fine-tuned dancer. It us, mankind, that changes from moment to moment. With our ever-increasing wisdom we could make a stand and blow hot air against her rotation and she would not be discourage.
So ask I you, how can I change the word? The answer is evident you can’t. But you can do something even better, make a stand in honor of your beliefs in hopes it bring a portion of man kind in measure.
Message edited by author 2006-04-08 02:55:54.
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04/08/2006 03:19:45 AM · #8 |
Well what the world wants is the real thing so if you buy the world a coke you'd be accomplishing that. :P
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04/08/2006 03:39:37 AM · #9 |
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04/08/2006 03:47:49 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by yeti:
Pepsi, no coke. |
Neither.
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04/08/2006 03:53:19 AM · #11 |
If you're gonna reference song lyrics, lets use some from someone who maybe could have ...
Revolution
Words and Music by John Lennon & Paul McCartney
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
Ah
ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...
You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right |
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04/08/2006 03:55:31 AM · #12 |
"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."
-- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826) |
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04/08/2006 04:45:38 AM · #13 |
I took the top 19 partners from the words most influencial consulting group (at least one from each of the major commerce centres in the world) to spend a week with the Amish community in Intercourse ... "stop laughing boy!" ... Pennsylvania.
I took them there in response to a corporate brief to take them out of their comfort zone in order to discuss how a financial services company could meet the needs of people better and with more sensitivity.
The world could do with such a visit. The Amish are the most gentle, self-effacing and humble people you could meet. They demonstrate qualities that we have forgotten in the rush to keep up with the 20th and 21st centuries and I believe we are poorer for it.
Unfortunately America treats them as a freak show and the whole experience is tarnished with billboards "Come and see a real Amish farm" ... "Have a real Amish lunch" none of which has anything at all to do with the Amish. It's rounded off by people who have the sensitivity of a Mack Truck. All of which the amish ignore and try to gently and quietly go about their lives mixing with the "English" (non-amish) in a perfectly normal way. Regreattably the pressure is driving them out of PA (where they settled) to Ohio for some peace and quiet. It makes me weep.
True story (told to me by a local shopkeeper)
- American woman tourist who marched up to one of two amishmen talking in the street, stuck out her chin and demanded. "Are you a Christian?!?!"
- His reply, "I don't know, it's not for me to say. Perhaps you'd like to ask my friend if I am."
If you're near PA, forget Hershey, forget Valley Forge, go to Intercourse in Lancaster County and sit on the grass quietly and observe life of true grace and beauty and truly consider who is better off. Dammit I don't want to spoil it but I s'pose I'd better tell you since this is a photography site ... the Amish don't like having their picture taken. It can be done, but only in a not-in-your-face way and if you engage and talk to them, not as freaks but as a wonderful people.
I did take some pics, they're on film, but there are scans scattered through our website
Brett |
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04/08/2006 09:49:22 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."
-- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826) |
My new signature.
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What would the first step be to change the world?
Change mens hearts? How? Conform? Educate?
Build shelters? For who?
Protect the weak? where?
Stop wars? When?
Give hope? With what?
Message edited by author 2006-04-08 09:50:01.
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04/08/2006 09:53:02 AM · #15 |
Isn't there a quote that goes along the lines of 'Change yourself before you change the world'?
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04/08/2006 10:34:47 AM · #16 |
Spend an hour with a child.
Write a letter to the editor.
Make a donation to charity.
Volunteer in a battered women's shelter.
Get trained to work on a crisis hotline
Tutor someone who can't read.
This should get you started.
:-)
Originally posted by American_Horse:
But, don't know what to do.
Can you help? |
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04/08/2006 10:37:30 AM · #17 |
I'm sorry, I must have missed something...
Did you say you wanted to change the world for good or for evil? One of them is a bit easier...
Let's just say that you could start by putting the world up for ransom for ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!
Or perhaps you meant the other way.
I guess it's not for us to change the world. |
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04/08/2006 11:02:48 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by eschelar:
I guess it's not for us to change the world. |
WHY not?
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04/08/2006 11:09:28 AM · #19 |
try one person at a time...
"What is necessary to change a person
Is to change his awareness of himself" -A. Maslow |
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04/08/2006 12:01:10 PM · #20 |
ORGANIZE!
Dunno where you live but I'm sure there are organizations around you working on local, city-wide , state-wide, national and/or global issues on social, economic, enviromental justice. Hook up with one that resonates wit you & you'll see how you are a part of making the world better.
If you would like, you can PM what city you live in & I can forward you some info.
PEACE!
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04/08/2006 12:20:20 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Rooster:
ORGANIZE!
Dunno where you live but I'm sure there are organizations around you working on local, city-wide , state-wide, national and/or global issues on social, economic, enviromental justice. Hook up with one that resonates wit you & you'll see how you are a part of making the world better.
If you would like, you can PM what city you live in & I can forward you some info.
PEACE! |
Brother Horse lives in the Greater Los Angeles metroplitan area and works as a lighting technician in the movie/TV industry. No shortage of "save the world" organizations there :-) Also no shortage of vain, shallow human beings with entirely superficial lives; indeed, LA may well be the world's capital for such people.
Arguably, if you wanted to "change the world" significantly, the logical first step would be to nuke LA :-)
Robt.
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04/08/2006 12:33:43 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Isn't there a quote that goes along the lines of 'Change yourself before you change the world'? |
“You must be the change you want to see in the world.” Mahatma Gandhi |
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04/08/2006 01:04:50 PM · #23 |
they are nothing
There are plenty of them.
They are abundant they spread.
They have made no difference in the sway they’ve had.
They have made no difference in the lands they’ve swept.
They have found no gain at all in theft.
They are well or ill, they are well or ill
In the double sense it makes
When there is little choice
But rights and an obligation.
They appoint a pawn who is a child who
Would be king.
There are plenty of kings in the air.
There are castles and kings high and fair,
And how marvellously credible they are.
They are wide and thin and some are green
And all are towering and there are trees and every shrub
Is rounder at the hub.
And there are leaves and leaves
Go out from every limb a little stretch
To see and look
Where the beginning is and how
It goes from here to there and in between
and what it means.
Where the beginning ends,
The end is beginning gradually.
And we know
That there is breath in every ebb and flow.
And how it is with every water fire earth and soul
That nothing comes and all will go
The way of plenty, one by one.
And there it is now. It has come.
[Z.Z.]
Message edited by author 2006-04-08 13:48:59. |
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04/08/2006 01:17:12 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by American_Horse:
But, don't know what to do.
Can you help? |
u may not change the world today
but u brought on a fine thread sofar
that is something ~)
a little distraction is all we need
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04/08/2006 01:29:51 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Arguably, if you wanted to "change the world" significantly, the logical first step would be to nuke LA :-)
Robt. |
Friend and Brother Bear, be careful even in jest.
Now a dayz you can never tell who may be reading our posts.
Keep a watchful eye out for any silent, black Sikorskis hovering above you.
(MR. NSA person, this is just a study, no nukes will be used, unless it's a new type of SLR battery.)
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