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07/28/2003 12:45:26 PM · #1 |
| Camera shop just called and there is a 10D in stock. I'm going to go make the final D100 vs 10D decision and make a purchase. I need some advice on a starter lens for the 10D. In 35mm terms, I could live with 28, 50, and 105 prime lenses (yes I still like a fast lens even if the idustry seems to be moving away). Any advice on a good zoom to start with?? I was looking at Canon 24-85, but not sure how effective it is for portraits (out of focus areas). |
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07/28/2003 01:10:40 PM · #2 |
I have a Canon EOS Elan II and for a long time the ONLY lense I had was the 28-135 with Image stabalization. I only recently bought a used lense to give me more zoom.
In the end it depends on what your primary use of the camera is. I've heard that 105mm is a good lense for portraits and that a 105mm macro lense is awesome. (I think 105 is Nikon and Canon has a 100).
There was another thread about lenses a while ago. Someone may have the link to point you there.
Message edited by author 2003-07-28 13:10:55.
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07/28/2003 01:16:06 PM · #3 |
The ~$70 Canon 50mm/1.8 is a bargain. You should get one no matter what. It makes a decent portrait lens (because of the 1.6X crop factor on the 10D), especially for the money. At f/1.8 you can really blur the background! It is plastic and doesn't have USM, but what do you expect for $70?! The $300 50mm/1.4 version adds 2/3 of a stop, full-time manual focus, USM , metal mount and an 8-blade iris (for much improved bokeh). But it is almost 3X the price...
If you're looking for a fantastic lens that you will keep for a long time, I'd highly recommend the Canon 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro. It is also a great portrait lens and the macro capability is sweet.
The Canon 24-85/f3.5-4.5 USM is a great "walk around" lens (I have one myself, but don't use it as much now that I have the 24-70/f2.8L). The 24-85 is small and lightweight. And with the 10D's ISO 800 and ISO 1600 performance, it can even handle some low light situations.
The other "starter lens" I'd highly consider is the 28-135/f3.5-5.6 IS USM lens. Again, not a fast lens (especially at the tele end), but the IS can help a lot in that regard as long as you aren't trying to stop action. |
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07/28/2003 01:22:18 PM · #4 |
I don't have a 10D, but have been thinking about upgrading (if I suddenly become rich :-) and so have been looking at lenses to scope out the total cost. I'd come to the conclusion that the 28-135 IS lens which Colette mentions gives me a pretty close range to my current F707 and won't break the bank.
It gets pretty good reviews on the web. Phil Askey of dpreview looks at lens options in his EOS-D60 review. A quick Google search ought to turn up others.
I figured I could augment this later with a wide-angle and a long telephoto.
Let us know what you opt for and how you get on.
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07/28/2003 02:00:13 PM · #5 |
I personally got the 24-85 rather than the 28-135 IS to use with my D60.
Some of the reasons that worked for me:
24mm at the wide-angle. With the 1.6x crop factor, I wanted as wide as I could get. (it still isn't very wide, but better than 28mm)
The 24-85 uses the same filter sizes as the 70-200F4L that I also bought. I can share one expensive polariser between these two lenses. 24-85 and 70-200 compliment each other quite well in a lot of ways - coverage overlap is good as well as filter sharing.
I didn't really feel the need for IS on such a short telephoto lens. Most of the things I'm shooting that might need fast lenses aren't helped by image stablisation. I either use a tripod if there isn't a lot of light or if I need the speed (for motion) IS is no help anyway.
I also have the 50mm 1.8 (dirt cheap, can just about shoot in the dark with a f1.8) and the 100mm f2.8 macro (great macro lens, so sharp it hurts - okay for portraits but I prefer the 70-200 or the 50mm
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07/29/2003 12:52:12 PM · #6 |
I just ordered 10D with Canon 28-135 IS lens, 512mb CF card and I extra battery pack, I think thats a good for starters.
I ordered it from bhphotovideo.com, does anyone know their service? |
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07/29/2003 01:33:34 PM · #7 |
b and h has always given me very rapid, prompt, and knowledgeable service. they've also been really good about backing up the products they sell. for example we bought a fuji s1 pro in 2001 and it had problems within the first 2 weeks. b and h exchanged it for a brand new one, no questions asked.
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07/29/2003 01:41:43 PM · #8 |
I'm still sorting out my lens choices for my impending 10D purchase but I figure I'm going to start with either the 70-200 f/2.8L or F/4L (haven't decided yet, it's for sports) or the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8. I've heard good things about the Sigma. I'm going to be attempting to make some cash shooting local sports with it...
Probably go with the Canon 2.8, even though it's big, heavy and
expensive. I figure for indoor stuff and for low-light nighttime track meets I'll regret getting the f/4, and it looks more professional than the Sigma, which sounds silly but gets you some breathing space in certain locations at certain events. My F717 will still be useful for shorter focal length applications until I can afford the other two I want - the 16-35 f/2.8L and the 24-70 f/2.8L. Those last two will be mostly for personal use, so they might be a while coming. I figure that, even though it'll be expensive, getting the good glass will be worth it. You'll always have the lenses... |
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07/29/2003 01:45:07 PM · #9 |
I bought mine too from B&H and everything was perfect. Took a little while (20 days) to Sweden, but all things were there. Compared to accphoto.com in Honkong it´s a LONG time. I bought my 17-40mm L lens from them and it took 3½ days to my door from Honkong.
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07/29/2003 03:03:38 PM · #10 |
I have gone for the Sigma 70-200 f2.8, will pick it up tomorrow and test it out this weekend at motocross..... have used a buddies and it is spot-on.... i have a 20-35 f3.5 - 4.5 which I am very happy with and am also getting the 50mm f1.8 for the middle ground....
that will be all my lenses replaced since buying my 10D 4 months ago....
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07/29/2003 03:34:02 PM · #11 |
| It does look very good...and about at the same price as the Canon F/4. The Canon SLR Lens talk forum over at dpreview.com has oodles of discussion over these lenses in question. I have yet to see anything about the speed of the Sigma's autofocus, which for me is of great importance. After hearing about potential problems with the 10D and the Canon 70-200 f/4 backfocusing I may make other choices. |
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07/29/2003 03:53:51 PM · #12 |
| James, autofocus and the AI Servo focus for me is critical and, provided my Sigma lens performs as well as my mates one, then I think you will be more than pleased with the speed at which it focuses. |
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