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02/05/2006 10:35:26 AM · #1
How about letting entries in "For Comment Only" i.e. NO SCORE.

Purposes:
#1 To encourage chance taking and experimentation without penalty
#2 To allow novices to get thier feet wet without negative reinforcement
#3 Some folks like myself, do not always feel comfortable leaving comments because we feel we are still learning and our comments would not always be valid. "For Comment Only" entries would therefore garner more comments because that is the sole purpose for their entry. and in all probability will learn from all comments.
#4 Reinforce DPC's desire to be a learning site. What better way?
--jrjr
02/05/2006 10:50:59 AM · #2
We have that it is called your portfolio "although only for members".

After you upload a image you create a thread requesting comments - that simple.

02/05/2006 11:00:09 AM · #3
Originally posted by shaver:

We have that it is called your portfolio "although only for members".

After you upload a image you create a thread requesting comments - that simple.

I understand that, but this would be done in the context of a challenge.
For instance, I probably will not enter "abstract" because I do not feel comfortable with my interpretation. However, I would enter it for comment only. Kapeesh?
--jrjr
02/05/2006 11:01:36 AM · #4
I like the idea. Let's do it.

Taking it a step further, I'd love to see a permanent "challenge", where you can enter only one photo and it stays anonymous for one week. It gets both comments and ratings, but they are just for information. After a week, it's kicked back to your profile with the information intact. Then you are able to enter another one. etc.

It would be a great way to tap DPC users for anonymous feedback on non-challenge photos. The one per week limit is to keep the queue from being bogged down. I said it should allow scores, because that's feedback too. The difference is that you would not be competing against anyone. No winner, no list by rank, nothing like that. In fact, not everyone would start and finish at the same time. It would basically be a permanent queue.

And it's different from other sites because ratings/critiques would be anonymous. (Actually, on Photopoints, they are anonymous for 24 hours.)

02/05/2006 11:17:58 AM · #5
Originally posted by nshapiro:

... I'd love to see a permanent "challenge", where you can enter only one photo and it stays anonymous for one week. It gets both comments and ratings, but they are just for information. After a week, it's kicked back to your profile with the information intact. Then you are able to enter another one. etc.

Other than wanting to call it a "gallery" instead of a "challenge" I think this is a great idea. It performs much the same function as having a jillion "Individual Photo" forum threads, but with anonymity and less clutter.

On the other hand, if there's perpetually 800 "free study" photos to look at, it might distract some voters from the themed challenges.
02/05/2006 11:19:46 AM · #6
You are right GeneralE. Keep it simple. My original post is best, in my opinion.
--jrjr
02/05/2006 11:21:08 AM · #7
Keeping the queue to a managable size might be an option.

Say, limit it to 200 but also limit it to one entry per photographer every 5 or 6 weeks.
02/05/2006 11:34:27 AM · #8
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Keeping the queue to a managable size might be an option.

Say, limit it to 200 but also limit it to one entry per photographer every 5 or 6 weeks.


Maybe we should just try a one or two challenge trial to see what kind of effects it may have. Sometimes we overthink these things into a muddled mess. No offense- you could very well be right, but I do not see these types of problems occurring because if you choose to enter "Comment Only" you would be precluded from entering a 2nd photo in that challenge. (One entry in a challenge stays in effect)
--jrjr
02/05/2006 11:43:07 AM · #9
Originally posted by jrjr:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Keeping the queue to a managable size might be an option.

Say, limit it to 200 but also limit it to one entry per photographer every 5 or 6 weeks.


Maybe we should just try a one or two challenge trial to see what kind of effects it may have. Sometimes we overthink these things into a muddled mess. No offense- you could very well be right, but I do not see these types of problems occurring because if you choose to enter "Comment Only" you would be precluded from entering a 2nd photo in that challenge. (One entry in a challenge stays in effect)
--jrjr


Let's see -- Free Study 600+ (sure that was a month)
Off-centered - 300+

Also, comments take longer than just voting so keeping the challenge numbers down would be a key goal.

Trying one without restrictions would set the baseline.

edit: trying something without thinking enough can create a bigger mess

Just think, a comments only gallery where some images get no comments. Kind of defeats the purpose.

Message edited by author 2006-02-05 11:47:41.
02/05/2006 12:08:02 PM · #10
it could be a gallery where you can upload one photo at a time and from where the picture is moved to your profile as soon as it gets 10, 15 comments. it may be limited to a certain amount of pictures so when you are returned your picture, before submitting again you have to wait until the queque of people still waiting to submit their first photo is over.
i like the most the idea of having only comments and no votes, because even if votes are a good feedback too, comments may be more useful to beginners like me... many not-so-good pics get low scores and nice and polite comments, no one or a very few people dares to say "this is mediocre because" and I have the feel that this is due to a kind of fear of hurting other people's feelings through criticism (maybe in the past there might had been someone overreacting to negative comments?)
this "system" makes it more difficult to beginners to understand their mistakes, and probably if one was allowed only to make comments we would have both positive and negative comments
I have submitted only to 3 challenges with three pictures i didn't like very much, then i kept on visiting this site very often but i didn't submit anything else because i didn't have nice ideas nor nice pictures fitting the challenges.
i hope i will submit something decent very soon, but anyway i like this idea very much because it would allow me (no member no portfolio!) to have feedback on random photos

02/05/2006 03:17:10 PM · #11
i for one would prefer a quiet this photo could be better if you . . .

better then 75 people saying this picture is crap.

in the current challenge system people that want to help will but by forcing people to voice there opinion they may give more of a negative response
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