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01/31/2006 01:23:44 AM · #1
I've been trying to find one for a while now. I use Picasa for my regular family/friends/everyday type pictures, but what do you guys use for your profressional pictures. I am familiar with a few of them, ThumbsPLUS, Adobe Bridge, ACDSEE...
01/31/2006 01:26:21 AM · #2
Cheez 3.0 is a free one.
01/31/2006 01:45:24 AM · #3
hitman...what's your opinion of Picassa? I've thought about it a bit but haven't bothered.

Faidoi, what's cheez like? Is it worth the price or is it a steal?

I've just been using Windows for all my organizing. Just have to be sure to name folders carefully and not get lazy.
01/31/2006 01:47:35 AM · #4
BreezeBrowser.
01/31/2006 02:20:43 AM · #5
BreezeBrowser, Beats Adobe bridge handsdown.
01/31/2006 02:26:19 AM · #6
Originally posted by sdunsmoor:

hitman...what's your opinion of Picassa? I've thought about it a bit but haven't bothered.


I started with Picassa, but didn't like the way that it throws everything into one pile then sorts by date. I also didn't like the way the editing worked. Editing was easy. Saving the edits to a new file (instead of the digital negative) was a pain.
01/31/2006 02:39:57 AM · #7
ACDSee v2.4.

I have thrown out version 7 because it was slow, cranky, resoure hungry, crashed the machine and did nothing more that I needed over 2.4.

In an earlier forum someone mentioned v8 is worse.

Brett
01/31/2006 02:48:01 AM · #8
I use Extensis Portfolio -- it's the best I've used, and I've tried a lot of them.
01/31/2006 09:53:35 AM · #9
I use iMatch

been trying iView MediaPro but it is very slow for reasonably large collections of images.

Message edited by author 2006-01-31 10:09:58.
01/31/2006 10:06:57 AM · #10
IView MediaPro - love it!

01/31/2006 10:25:25 AM · #11
I just got Windows Digital Image Suite, and like it. It doesn't organize things quite as I expected, but works very well nonetheless.
01/31/2006 10:27:13 AM · #12
Organizing? Whuzzat? :P
01/31/2006 10:58:55 AM · #13
Originally posted by idnic:

Organizing? Whuzzat? :P


My thoughts exactly - beat me to it!

On a serious note, I upload files from CF using PS, and the folder automatically gets the time/date stamp of the download time.

If it was something recognizeable that day, I change the name to that recognizeable topic. Burn DVDs as backups every once in a while.

So far it worked fine... I can still find stuff (most of the time).
01/31/2006 11:14:32 AM · #14
Gordon, how large a collection did iView MediaPro give you problems with? I have about 3500 images in it now, and it's working quite well, but I have at least twice that number that I want to put in. I'm concerned that I might outgrow it.
01/31/2006 11:41:50 AM · #15
Originally posted by Bebe:

Gordon, how large a collection did iView MediaPro give you problems with? I have about 3500 images in it now, and it's working quite well, but I have at least twice that number that I want to put in. I'm concerned that I might outgrow it.


I had it catalog my 2005 shoots, about 11,000 frames.

I have another 4 times that in iMatch without as much slow down.

Could just be my PC though. 2.8GHz P4 with 2G RAM

I'll probably give it another shot when I have time, but I really wasn't very impressed first time around. Maybe I'm just using it incorrectly and should be cataloging smaller sets of images.

Message edited by author 2006-01-31 11:50:29.
01/31/2006 11:53:47 AM · #16
Do any of the mentioned software support off-line collections and catalogues (i.e. things burned onto optical media and deleted from local hard drive)? If so, what information does it keep and where? Can the database file be easily backed up and transferred to another computer?

Thanks!
01/31/2006 12:07:16 PM · #17
Originally posted by Gordon:

Could just be my PC though. 2.8GHz P4 with 2G RAM


Ha! I don't think the PC is the problem.
01/31/2006 12:13:33 PM · #18
Originally posted by agenkin:

Do any of the mentioned software support off-line collections and catalogues (i.e. things burned onto optical media and deleted from local hard drive)? If so, what information does it keep and where? Can the database file be easily backed up and transferred to another computer?


What I do for offline collections is to create 1/4 sized jpeg proofs which are kept in a folder: Archive > DVD Name > Master Folder Name. The Masters get burned to DVD then removed from the drive.

Every image keeps a reference to it's master in the filename. DVD Name is written on DVD.

Message edited by author 2006-01-31 12:14:38.
01/31/2006 12:17:52 PM · #19
Windows Explorer. It comes with Windows.
:-D
01/31/2006 12:26:41 PM · #20
Extensis Portfolio supports all of my off-line photos on DVD. The program maintains a thumbnail of each shot and tells me which CD to insert when I try to open a photo. The database files are easily transferable to any computer.

Originally posted by agenkin:

Do any of the mentioned software support off-line collections and catalogues (i.e. things burned onto optical media and deleted from local hard drive)? If so, what information does it keep and where? Can the database file be easily backed up and transferred to another computer?

Thanks!

01/31/2006 12:32:12 PM · #21
iView Media Pro. No problems with speed, once the images are in the database (importing is a bit slow on my 1.25GHz G4 PowerBook, but I don't really care, batch-importing images is an offline process for me).

However, recently MediaPro has been reporting some bizarre aperture and shutter speed values for lots of raw files, like f10.9 and 1/333. The EXIF info isn't corrupt, this one for example says f11 and 1/250 both in Photoshop and in Canon's ImageBrowser. I get this problem in MediaPro 2.6.4 and 3.0.1, with both new and old catalogs. Anyone else come across this problem?
01/31/2006 12:52:51 PM · #22
Originally posted by agenkin:

Do any of the mentioned software support off-line collections and catalogues (i.e. things burned onto optical media and deleted from local hard drive)? If so, what information does it keep and where? Can the database file be easily backed up and transferred to another computer?

Thanks!

iMatch does this. You can import the EXIF information as well as any IPTC information (such as keywords) you insert into the files before burning them to your media. When iMatch imports the images into the database, it creates thumbnails, records the volume name for the offline media the images are on, and then prompts you for the correct media when you double-click a thumbnail. You can also enter a text description for each media. I use this to identify exactly the binder slot where I physically store the CD.

You can get iMatch from photools.com
01/31/2006 12:53:13 PM · #23
Originally posted by agenkin:

Do any of the mentioned software support off-line collections and catalogues (i.e. things burned onto optical media and deleted from local hard drive)? If so, what information does it keep and where? Can the database file be easily backed up and transferred to another computer?

Thanks!


ACDSee (which is now on version 8) has an offline media feature that sounds almost exactly like Portfolio's according to bryanbrazil. ACDSee also shows you all of the same information that it would if the image was still on your harddisc like aperture, shutter speed, file info, exif info, etc.
I also use Adobe Bridge at the moment so my workflow consists of using ACDSee & Bridge & switching back & forth since I get crappy full-size previews in Bridge but the 1-5 Ratings I apply through ACDSee don't carry over in the EXIF so I have to redo it in Bridge. To be honest it's confusing & frustrating to have to use 2 seperate programs which is why I am currently looking for a better one. I just downloaded the trial version of Portfolio & am hoping that'll work better but it isn't doing the job either so far.
01/31/2006 12:59:46 PM · #24
I previously used ACDSee extensively, but I switched to Portfolio because ACDSee ran so sloooow when trying to access media on DVDs. Does anybody else have performance issues with ACDSee and off-line media?

Originally posted by MagikTrik:


ACDSee (which is now on version 8) has an offline media feature that sounds almost exactly like Portfolio's according to bryanbrazil. ACDSee also shows you all of the same information that it would if the image was still on your harddisc like aperture, shutter speed, file info, exif info, etc.
I also use Adobe Bridge at the moment so my workflow consists of using ACDSee & Bridge & switching back & forth since I get crappy full-size previews in Bridge but the 1-5 Ratings I apply through ACDSee don't carry over in the EXIF so I have to redo it in Bridge. To be honest it's confusing & frustrating to have to use 2 seperate programs which is why I am currently looking for a better one. I just downloaded the trial version of Portfolio & am hoping that'll work better but it isn't doing the job either so far.

01/31/2006 01:00:41 PM · #25
Originally posted by magnus:

iView Media Pro. No problems with speed, once the images are in the database (importing is a bit slow on my 1.25GHz G4 PowerBook, but I don't really care, batch-importing images is an offline process for me).


Yeah, importing took about 10 hours for me. I actually think it is a network issue. The iView forums are full of people complaining about its performance over a gigabit network with NAS.
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