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01/13/2006 09:39:21 AM · #1 |
hi everyone,
Im shooting this boxing match and im a bit uncertain about something. I only have 2 lenses for this, a 50mm 1.8 and my 18-55 . Obviously the light in the arena wont be the best and i was wondering wich lens i should use and what settings should my camera be on. Its my first sport shoot.I know these lenses arent made for sports (especially indoors) but .... Your help would be very helpfull.Ill be on the side of the ring so ill be pretty close to the action.
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01/13/2006 09:55:43 AM · #2 |
You're probly going to have to stick with the 1.8 and that won't give you much wiggle room in terms of composition. I'd say you'll be at like ISO 800, f2,...but you'll have to test it out when you get there.
I would hesitate to use the 18-55mm unless you HAVE to and can flash. That is just too dark. 3.5 on 18mm, 5.6 on 55mm is no good. :(
Good luck! Post pics later!
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01/13/2006 09:56:57 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
You're probly going to have to stick with the 1.8 and that won't give you much wiggle room in terms of composition. I'd say you'll be at like ISO 800, f2,...but you'll have to test it out when you get there.
I would hesitate to use the 18-55mm unless you HAVE to and can flash. That is just too dark. 3.5 on 18mm, 5.6 on 55mm is no good. :(
Good luck! Post pics later! |
u reckon. I thought boxing rings in my experience are quite illuminated!?? |
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01/13/2006 09:57:13 AM · #4 |
Even if you're sitting right by the ring, you're not going to be able to get great action shots with those two lenses (e.g., facial expressions as the glove connects with the face or body). Since you're working with wider angles, I'd shoot for atmosphere, crowd, the sterotypical "smoky" brawl atmosphere of the ring (I realize there might not be anybody smoking in this day and age). When the boxers are on your side of the ring, up on the ropes, go for action shots where you can see the faces as much as possible.
When you get there (before the fight), shoot some test shots with your rig and adjust ISO and F-stop accordingly. You're most likely going to stick with your 50 1.8 due to its larger aperture.
Good luck and post some shots afterwards! |
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01/13/2006 09:58:13 AM · #5 |
Alex - I think the ring is illuminated very well compared to what's around it. I'm guessing that it's still a fairly dark atmosphere. Our eyes adjust but the cam won't. I could be WAY off - I've never tried boxing photography, but my guess would be set the XT on ISO 800 and fire away. :)
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01/13/2006 10:04:23 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
Alex - I think the ring is illuminated very well compared to what's around it. I'm guessing that it's still a fairly dark atmosphere. Our eyes adjust but the cam won't. I could be WAY off - I've never tried boxing photography, but my guess would be set the XT on ISO 800 and fire away. :) |
If taking ring photos I would go for the zoom capability. iso 800 prob do the job nicely. Remember better to get a grainy-ish shot than nothing at all.
Also f 1.8 the body would be out of focus if focusing on the head (depending on boxing style.
IMHO :-)
Message edited by author 2006-01-13 10:13:25. |
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01/13/2006 11:12:59 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Also f 1.8 the body would be out of focus if focusing on the head (depending on boxing style.
IMHO :-) |
Just because the max aperture on the lens is 1.8 that doesn't mean you have to leave it wide open. At 2.8 and to the center of the ring should give you descent DOF.
If you have a flash use it and close down to f/8. If you don't perhaps you could borrow one. Otherwise my advice would be to use the 50mm. Maybe you'll get a great shot you can sell for enough money to buy a 70-200 2.8 and a flash. You never know. In any case it will be a leaning experience.
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01/13/2006 11:18:44 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Also f 1.8 the body would be out of focus if focusing on the head (depending on boxing style.
IMHO :-) |
Just because the max aperture on the lens is 1.8 that doesn't mean you have to leave it wide open. At 2.8 and to the center of the ring should give you descent DOF.
If you have a flash use it and close down to f/8. If you don't perhaps you could borrow one. Otherwise my advice would be to use the 50mm. Maybe you'll get a great shot you can sell for enough money to buy a 70-200 2.8 and a flash. You never know. In any case it will be a leaning experience. |
Well the arguement was that using a 1.8 would give you more light. At 1.8 from half the close side of the ring the body would be slightly out of focus.
I reckon the 18-55 has more options.
Message edited by author 2006-01-13 11:19:34. |
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01/13/2006 12:34:34 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Also f 1.8 the body would be out of focus if focusing on the head (depending on boxing style.
IMHO :-) |
Just because the max aperture on the lens is 1.8 that doesn't mean you have to leave it wide open. At 2.8 and to the center of the ring should give you descent DOF.
If you have a flash use it and close down to f/8. If you don't perhaps you could borrow one. Otherwise my advice would be to use the 50mm. Maybe you'll get a great shot you can sell for enough money to buy a 70-200 2.8 and a flash. You never know. In any case it will be a leaning experience. |
Well the arguement was that using a 1.8 would give you more light. At 1.8 from half the close side of the ring the body would be slightly out of focus.
I reckon the 18-55 has more options. |
Actually the argument as I saw it (myself considering if I was in the same position) was in using the 1.8 lens because it would allow more light. At 2.8 it is still faster then the zoom and in a boxing match the wide end of the zoom he owns will be virtually useless. At 55mm the widest he can open his zoom would be f/5.6. Slow.
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01/13/2006 12:40:21 PM · #10 |
50 f1.8 if you don't have flash,
15-55 zoom if you have say a 550EX to throw lots of light up there
the 50 will restrict your composition, but it will make you work harder and you will learn quite a lot bu=y using it.
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01/13/2006 12:42:48 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Also f 1.8 the body would be out of focus if focusing on the head (depending on boxing style.
IMHO :-) |
Just because the max aperture on the lens is 1.8 that doesn't mean you have to leave it wide open. At 2.8 and to the center of the ring should give you descent DOF.
If you have a flash use it and close down to f/8. If you don't perhaps you could borrow one. Otherwise my advice would be to use the 50mm. Maybe you'll get a great shot you can sell for enough money to buy a 70-200 2.8 and a flash. You never know. In any case it will be a leaning experience. |
Well the arguement was that using a 1.8 would give you more light. At 1.8 from half the close side of the ring the body would be slightly out of focus.
I reckon the 18-55 has more options. |
Actually the argument as I saw it (myself considering if I was in the same position) was in using the 1.8 lens because it would allow more light. At 2.8 it is still faster then the zoom and in a boxing match the wide end of the zoom he owns will be virtually useless. At 55mm the widest he can open his zoom would be f/5.6. Slow. |
Right - 50mm at 2.0, 2.8, 3.5 is still ALL better than 55mm at 5.6 And what good is 22mm at f4 and ISO 800 if everything has motion blur instead of DOF blur?
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01/13/2006 12:44:01 PM · #12 |
| great chance for blurry gloves making solid contact pictures.. dont forget to post some pics here. I love boxing! |
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