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01/04/2006 03:16:05 AM · #1
this is absolute an underrated picture, pattern in more than one way



villy

Message edited by author 2006-01-04 03:17:24.
01/04/2006 08:22:04 AM · #2
Absolutely agree!
This photo is a nice play of patterns, shapes, colors... brightenss and then rust; regular geometrical shape numbers and plates, and then chaos of rust and irregular placing of numbers... I can stare at this photo for quite some time without getting tired or bored.

I was about to open a new forum thread asking for the most underrated photo, but instead I found this topic. So, here I say that this is the most underrated photo in DPC (of course, IMHO).
01/04/2006 08:32:23 AM · #3
Originally posted by visaksen:

this is absolute an underrated picture, pattern in more than one way

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villy

I couldn't agree more also, It is very modern looking and different from anything else, it should have placed much higher
01/04/2006 09:22:09 AM · #4
Thanks for the kind words. I really didn't expect it to score very well. It's not the 'norm' for DPC, but I did feel that it fit well for the challenge in a more obscure way. I do agree with bear_music that it probably is just a bit overexposed in post processing. I believe that's due to me editing and submitting it from my laptop instead of my desktop.

I'm not bummed by it's placement, as I don't approach challenges like I did in the past. I shoot for me, and if I like the shot enough to enter, I will.

Thanks again,
-danny
01/04/2006 09:38:39 AM · #5
I liked it alot, gave you an 8 :) I feel like I am experiencing the same thing in my current challenge. I feel like alot of people didn't even look at the picture just clicked 4 because it was their 300th image to vote on.
01/04/2006 09:50:43 AM · #6
I thought it was fascinating. :)
01/04/2006 11:01:17 AM · #7
it was my fav pic of the challenge. should have placed much higher.
01/04/2006 11:07:34 AM · #8
Yes...definitely underrated. One of my 5 best. It just gets better the longer you look at it which is the real test of a good photo.
01/04/2006 03:38:01 PM · #9
I really don't think it was underrated, but poorly marketed. You just picked a subject that people would either really like or really hate. Your score is a perfect bell curve give or take a couple with 5 as teh dominant score. I will agree that it is interesting and technically sound.

The problems arise with the DPC community. The DPC community is a small sample of the entire photography market. There are people who like sports/macro/landscapes/dig. art/abstract etc... These are the people who vote. Your picture unfortunately doesn't appeal to some or most of them. Pick a subject that appeals to people across the board and do well, take a nice pic that is a bit specialized and you average a 5.
01/05/2006 02:33:46 AM · #10
Originally posted by Jmnuggy:

I really don't think it was underrated, but poorly marketed. ..... Your score is a perfect bell curve give or take a couple with 5 as teh dominant score.


How should the shape of score be, so that you will call it underrated?

villy
01/05/2006 03:29:02 AM · #11
Originally posted by visaksen:

Originally posted by Jmnuggy:

I really don't think it was underrated, but poorly marketed. ..... Your score is a perfect bell curve give or take a couple with 5 as teh dominant score.


How should the shape of score be, so that you will call it underrated?

villy


Top-heavy and bottom-heavy, light in the middle; a two-spike score distribution. Frequently shows an image that was skilfully made and worked for a lot of people but went over (or under) the heads of many voters, or was of a subject many found unappealing.

R.
01/05/2006 03:32:15 AM · #12
show me an exampel
01/05/2006 03:49:35 AM · #13
Originally posted by visaksen:

show me an exampel


In my own entries, I can't find any really good examples offhand; I tend to score poorly a lot because I have a deviant approach to challenge topics. I frequently eschew the obvious for more elliptical interpretations, and pay the price with lowish scores.

The following image, on the other hand, is technically very good, meets the challenge to a tee, and spiked some high scores that were annoyingly offset by a rash of 3-and-worse votes that I can't understand. Anyway, note that it has a secondary peak in the 10's, more 10's than 9's:



Robt.
01/05/2006 04:13:32 AM · #14
it is more a matter of "DCP-taste" than mathematics and statitics .... IMHO

villy
01/05/2006 04:33:39 AM · #15
Originally posted by visaksen:

it is more a matter of "DCP-taste" than mathematics and statitics .... IMHO

villy


Yes, sure... but sometimes you can analyze the voting patterns and see where an image has polarized the voters, and that tells you something. The math is all after-the-fact, when you're trying to figure out what actually took place.

If, for example, you took an image that had 20 10's and 30 1's (hard to imagine) then that would be a very interesting statistic to look at LOL.

R.
01/05/2006 04:57:59 AM · #16
Originally posted by Bear_Music:



If, for example, you took an image that had 20 10's and 30 1's (hard to imagine) then that would be a very interesting statistic to look at LOL.

R.


It would be interesting to see some of the more contentious pictures - for example those that have a high Standard Deviation in the scoring. I checked a number of my entries, can anyone beat an Std dev of 1.8.
01/05/2006 06:42:46 AM · #17
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

... Top-heavy and bottom-heavy, light in the middle; a two-spike score distribution. ...


I'd call it controversial (e.g. Got cheese? ).

Another photo that I consider underrated is nico_blue's Echoes, but this one still has quite a normal distribution, with a single spike at the center.

Edit to add: the point of this reply is to encourage people to take this kind of shots, because there are a few here (at least I am), who enjoy this kind of photography. Thank you.

Message edited by author 2006-01-05 06:56:35.
01/05/2006 10:53:17 AM · #18
I just realized that this thread isn't even started by the photographer of the picture in question. The photographer knows what it takes to win a ribbon, and probably did this photo because they really wanted to do it knowing perfectly well that it would not win.

I can't believe how dumb this thread is. Some guy debating whether someone elses photo is underrated and not accepting our answers, even though I used mathmatics to explain my point. I even got a PM about this. What the hell? The photographer doesn't even care about the score, why should you?
01/05/2006 11:28:25 AM · #19
LOL, I found this quite humorous... Let's all just lighten up. The pic worked for some, like me and the original poster, and didn't for others. No worries. The lesson here, is take photos for yourself and enjoy what you shoot.

-danny

Originally posted by Jmnuggy:

I just realized that this thread isn't even started by the photographer of the picture in question. The photographer knows what it takes to win a ribbon, and probably did this photo because they really wanted to do it knowing perfectly well that it would not win.

I can't believe how dumb this thread is. Some guy debating whether someone elses photo is underrated and not accepting our answers, even though I used mathmatics to explain my point. I even got a PM about this. What the hell? The photographer doesn't even care about the score, why should you?

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