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12/12/2005 12:45:40 PM · #1
well it seems canon is slacking in one category
I know fisheyes are a novelty lens to some people, but it's one of my favorite!
Pentax is now releasing one - a 10-17mm - (theirs is a zoom fisheye, which kinda baffles me...makes me think they made a wide angle and didnt wanna worry about fixing barrel distortion...the whole concept is weird to me) for the *ist Dslrs so that's pretty cool.

//www.dpreview.com/news/0512/05120103pentax_fishizoom.asp

Olympus has got it coming out soon too

//www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05063001olympus_fisheye.asp

take advantage folks! If I were in the dslr market right now and I didn't need to shoot sports as much as I do, I'd be checking out all the other brands, their lines are expanding (fisheyes are just an example)

Message edited by author 2005-12-12 12:45:52.
12/12/2005 02:03:17 PM · #2
I really like mine but haven't found a wide use for it yet. It's great for buildings and all the other classic type of fisheye shots(extreme close-ups, etc.) Generally a lot of fun to play with but I wanted to do more serious stuff with it and less of the cartoonish style.

I think this is my best effort to date...
12/12/2005 02:08:28 PM · #3


Canon Fisheye

(am confused, B&H has a Canon Fisheye lens...so how is Canon slacking?)
12/12/2005 02:09:51 PM · #4
canon is slacking because it doesn't have a fisheye for it's 1.6x or 1.3x cameras that can deliver true 180 degree diagonal FOV.
12/12/2005 02:12:11 PM · #5
Originally posted by kyebosh:

canon is slacking because it doesn't have a fisheye for it's 1.6x or 1.3x cameras that can deliver true 180 degree diagonal FOV.


Probably because they plan on migrating everyone to full frame soon...
12/12/2005 02:13:38 PM · #6
While they're trying to get the market more towards 1.0x it doesn't look like 1.6x is dying out yet.
12/12/2005 02:19:30 PM · #7
Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by kyebosh:

canon is slacking because it doesn't have a fisheye for it's 1.6x or 1.3x cameras that can deliver true 180 degree diagonal FOV.


Probably because they plan on migrating everyone to full frame soon...


I'll believe that when I see a sub $1000 full frame DSLR body.

As for fisheye lenses, the Canon 15mm fisheye is not all that fishy on an APS-c camera like the 10D/20D/300D/350D cameras.

Nikon is still ahead in terms of their wide angle lens offerings.

Message edited by author 2005-12-12 14:23:17.
12/12/2005 02:19:33 PM · #8
i dont think the 1.6 will die out. the 1.3 probably will but for now every canon user without a full frame has buy a peleng 8 mm and crop the black corners =(~

This is a huge area of aggravation among the skate/snow/bmx photographers right now, but probably not any other market. It's not really a big deal except for those people.
12/12/2005 02:21:27 PM · #9
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by kyebosh:

canon is slacking because it doesn't have a fisheye for it's 1.6x or 1.3x cameras that can deliver true 180 degree diagonal FOV.


Probably because they plan on migrating everyone to full frame soon...


I'll believe that when I see a sub $1000 full frame DSLR body.


Well who would have thought that we'd have a sub $4k Full frame this year 1 year ago?
12/12/2005 02:28:58 PM · #10
Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by kyebosh:

canon is slacking because it doesn't have a fisheye for it's 1.6x or 1.3x cameras that can deliver true 180 degree diagonal FOV.


Probably because they plan on migrating everyone to full frame soon...


I'll believe that when I see a sub $1000 full frame DSLR body.


Well who would have thought that we'd have a sub $4k Full frame this year 1 year ago?


I'm not saying it won't happen, just that I'm skeptical of it being imminent.
12/12/2005 02:36:40 PM · #11
Sigma Fisheye 8mm f/4 EX DG Circular Fisheye for EOS
12/12/2005 02:42:22 PM · #12
Originally posted by theSaj:

Sigma Fisheye 8mm f/4 EX DG Circular Fisheye for EOS


Another option is the Peleng 8mm, for about 1/3 the price of the Sigma.
12/12/2005 02:50:53 PM · #13
Circular is limited. The Full Monty is the way to go IMHO.
12/12/2005 03:55:13 PM · #14
Originally posted by pawdrix:

Circular is limited. The Full Monty is the way to go IMHO.

For 1.6x cams, the 8mm (circular) fisheyes are a pretty good fit. They give about 160 degrees horizontally, and 180 degrees diagonal with dark corners (corners of sensor are outside the image circle. They allow for good flexibility in slight cropping/stretching to achieve desired effects. The Peleng, as stated above, is a pretty darn good option, especially since AF is in no way needed on these lenses; it's easy to get DoF from a foot or two all the way to infinity. For the 1.3x cams, things are a little trickier. The 8mm choice is not so attractive, you wind up cropping away too much. The 15mm fisheyes don't quite amke it to 180 degrees diagonal for 1.3-crop. For full frame, of course, the choice is easy... either the Canon or Sigma 15mm fisheye.
For skateboard/snowboard and related scenarios, this puts the photog in the spot of choosing optimal AoV vs. frame rate. Since the maximum achievable frame rate is pretty much a requirement, I'd suggest that the 1DMkIIN + 15mm fisheye option is pretty much the best option. The AoV is not THAT much less than 180 degrees across the diagonals, and the camera performance is best-in-class.
Looking forward, don't expect to see a fisheye tailored to give 180-degree diagonal coverage on the 1.3-crop bodies; Canon's direction is clearly to go full-frame for the next generation of high-speed 1-series body. Given this expectation, again the 15mm lens makes sense since it will give optimal results on future, full-frame bodies.
12/12/2005 04:15:55 PM · #15
Just a note, I read the Peleng 8mm on a D70 when focusto infinity the mirror will hit the lens.
09/21/2006 05:46:46 PM · #16
anyone have some orriginal images w/o cropping on a 1.6x sensor from the peleng..

also wondering if it will hit the mirror on a 30d?

-Dan
09/21/2006 06:03:51 PM · #17
Originally posted by I Enjoy Ham:

anyone have some orriginal images w/o cropping on a 1.6x sensor from the peleng..

also wondering if it will hit the mirror on a 30d?

-Dan


These two shots:

show how the Peleng looks on a 1.6-crop cam, in this case the Canon 10D. The left shot is the uncropped image, and the right shot is a version that is just defished enough to get rid of the dark corners. Note that the defishing was done using Panotools, and the longer aspect ratio is a result of the different mapping used.
I don't know specifically about mirror interference on the 30D. It worked fine on my 10D, and the mirror sizes should be similar.
09/21/2006 06:19:03 PM · #18
I just got my Peleng 8mm - it's a pretty cool little lens. Definitely changes how you shoot landscapes, or anything for that matter... it's almost unbelievable how close you get to things and they still don't fill the frame.
I'd definitely recommend one, although it's not exactly a 'basic editing' type of lens depending on what you shoot :p

Here's an unedited shot from it - the front element was almost touching the corner of the wall, which is a 90' angle, and yet you can still see down the hallway and part of the living room.
09/21/2006 06:23:41 PM · #19
Do all the shots have that blue around the edge? Does stopping down help it?
09/21/2006 06:28:45 PM · #20
Originally posted by MrEd:

Do all the shots have that blue around the edge? Does stopping down help it?


Yes, and no.
The blue is actually the OOF edge of the lens body. On most lenses, you never see the edge of the image circle, but that's what you're seeing here. Things get a little ugly right near the edge, as you might expect.
09/21/2006 06:42:02 PM · #21


Taken with the 30D No cropping.

there is one more in that GTG folder but I won't post it.

and thanks to kirbic's help I got lots in focus


Message edited by author 2006-09-21 18:43:58.
09/21/2006 06:46:32 PM · #22
Originally posted by pawdrix:

I really like mine but haven't found a wide use for it yet. It's great for buildings and all the other classic type of fisheye shots(extreme close-ups, etc.) Generally a lot of fun to play with but I wanted to do more serious stuff with it and less of the cartoonish style.

I think this is my best effort to date...


???

This is your best effort by far.



At least IMO. This shot inspired me to buy the Peleng Fisheye
09/21/2006 07:18:51 PM · #23
cant remember the brand

09/21/2006 07:37:36 PM · #24
agh i hate decisions... to go with this or the macro... 2 completely different subjects... DOH!
09/21/2006 07:39:32 PM · #25
A friend of mine once said that the only use for fisheye lenses is to shoot these photos that show what fisheye lenses do... (fun to play with, not much practical use) I'd like to have one anyways but it's pretty far down my wishlist...
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