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 12/03/2005 06:36:25 PM · #1
Hi,

I am new to digital photography as well as this site.

I am trying to photograph images in either no or very minimal light.

I know that I have to leave mt shutter open for either a 1/2 or full second to allow the photos to be viewable.

How do I set my camera to perform this feature.

Thanks
Boz
 12/03/2005 06:38:31 PM · #2
Set shutter speed.

Also, bulb setting if you have a remote.
 12/03/2005 06:42:54 PM · #3
I don't have a remote yet, but I am going to purchase one.

Also I currently have my shutter speed set at 1/30, but I still get very dark photos.
 12/03/2005 06:44:50 PM · #4
1/30 is not a lot at all. you'll want to set the shutter speed for something like 5 seconds or more.

i'm assuming what you are trying to take shots of is standing still? and that the camera is on a tripod (or other steady surface?)
 12/03/2005 06:44:56 PM · #5
Originally posted by raiderboz:
I don't have a remote yet, but I am going to purchase one.

Also I currently have my shutter speed set at 1/30, but I still get very dark photos.


the d 70 opens up all the way to 15 seconds. open up more.
 12/03/2005 06:45:29 PM · #6
you can also use the timer function of the cam instead of a remote. that allows you to press the shutter and then get out of the way before the camera actually shoots.
 12/03/2005 06:46:35 PM · #7
Originally posted by gi_joe05:


the d 70 opens up all the way to 15 seconds. open up more.


it should go up to 30, and in manual mode you can set it to "bulb," which means that you press the shutter (or remote) once to start the photo and press it again to stop it, allowing an almost unlimited length of time.

be warned that the longer the shutter is open, the more noise the photo will have.
 12/03/2005 06:47:27 PM · #8
In very dark situations, you might need many seconds... landscapes by moonlight are pretty dim even at 30 seconds exposure. Set up the cam on a good tripod, set the self timer, and put the camera in manual mode. Set the apperture at it's widest setting, and the shutter at one second. If still underexposed, make it even longer, your cam can go to 30 seconds, I think, without using "bulb" mode.

12/03/2005 06:50:52 PM · #9
Originally posted by muckpond:
be warned that the longer the shutter is open, the more noise the photo will have.


There is a menu setting for "Long Exposure Noise Reduction" which does wonders, too. Be sure to have that turned on.

One note about the noise reduction feature, though, which I recently learned. I have always kept this setting turned on so I don't have to remember it. However, I recently read that having it turned on will keep you from being able to shoot at the maximum of 3 fps.

I remember when I first got the camera, I was wondering why it wouldn't shoot faster than about 1 frame/second, and this turned out to be the reason.
 12/03/2005 06:55:55 PM · #10
Originally posted by muckpond:
1/30 is not a lot at all. you'll want to set the shutter speed for something like 5 seconds or more.

i'm assuming what you are trying to take shots of is standing still? and that the camera is on a tripod (or other steady surface?)


Yes I am trying to shoot a still object from a tripod.

I checked my settings and have the following under the shutter speed option on the CSM Menu:

1/60
1/30
1/15
1/8
1/4
1/2
1"
2"
4"
8"
15"
30"

What does the " correspond to???
 12/03/2005 06:56:50 PM · #11
Originally posted by alansfreed:
Originally posted by muckpond:
be warned that the longer the shutter is open, the more noise the photo will have.


There is a menu setting for "Long Exposure Noise Reduction" which does wonders, too. Be sure to have that turned on.

One note about the noise reduction feature, though, which I recently learned. I have always kept this setting turned on so I don't have to remember it. However, I recently read that having it turned on will keep you from being able to shoot at the maximum of 3 fps.
I remember when I first got the camera, I was wondering why it wouldn't shoot faster than about 1 frame/second, and this turned out to be the reason.


Noise reduction should not be used unless it is needed. Under normal circumstances having noise reduction turned on will soften an image.
12/03/2005 06:56:58 PM · #12
Originally posted by raiderboz:
Originally posted by muckpond:
1/30 is not a lot at all. you'll want to set the shutter speed for something like 5 seconds or more.

i'm assuming what you are trying to take shots of is standing still? and that the camera is on a tripod (or other steady surface?)


Yes I am trying to shoot a still object from a tripod.

I checked my settings and have the following under the shutter speed option on the CSM Menu:

1/60
1/30
1/15
1/8
1/4
1/2
1"
2"
4"
8"
15"
30"

What does the " correspond to???


seconds
 12/03/2005 06:57:33 PM · #13
Originally posted by raiderboz:
30"

What does the " correspond to???


seconds

12/03/2005 06:58:43 PM · #14
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by raiderboz:
Originally posted by muckpond:
1/30 is not a lot at all. you'll want to set the shutter speed for something like 5 seconds or more.

i'm assuming what you are trying to take shots of is standing still? and that the camera is on a tripod (or other steady surface?)


Yes I am trying to shoot a still object from a tripod.

I checked my settings and have the following under the shutter speed option on the CSM Menu:

1/60
1/30
1/15
1/8
1/4
1/2
1"
2"
4"
8"
15"
30"

What does the " correspond to???


seconds


Or inches, depending on what country you are in. ; )
 12/03/2005 07:00:02 PM · #15
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by raiderboz:
Originally posted by muckpond:
1/30 is not a lot at all. you'll want to set the shutter speed for something like 5 seconds or more.

i'm assuming what you are trying to take shots of is standing still? and that the camera is on a tripod (or other steady surface?)


Yes I am trying to shoot a still object from a tripod.

I checked my settings and have the following under the shutter speed option on the CSM Menu:

1/60
1/30
1/15
1/8
1/4
1/2
1"
2"
4"
8"
15"
30"

What does the " correspond to???


seconds


Or inches, depending on what country you are in. ; )


Don't confuse the issue.
 12/03/2005 07:44:23 PM · #16
OK...here's what I've tried so far.

The shutter speed settings is only available in M,A,S,P modes.

I set it to 30 seconds and have the ASA set to 2.8 seconds and the longest I get the shutter to stay open is 5 seconds in A mode.
12/03/2005 07:57:30 PM · #17
Originally posted by raiderboz:
OK...here's what I've tried so far.

The shutter speed settings is only available in M,A,S,P modes.

I set it to 30 seconds and have the ASA set to 2.8 seconds and the longest I get the shutter to stay open is 5 seconds in A mode.


Go to M
12/03/2005 08:01:41 PM · #18
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Noise reduction should not be used unless it is needed. Under normal circumstances having noise reduction turned on will soften an image.


Can you show me documentation or other proof of this (particularly for images shot under 1/2 a second)? I've always been under the impression that the Long Exposure Noise Reduction would have no effect unless the shot was exposed for a certain length of time... like 1/2 second-ish.
 12/03/2005 08:03:38 PM · #19
Originally posted by raiderboz:
OK...here's what I've tried so far.

The shutter speed settings is only available in M,A,S,P modes.

I set it to 30 seconds and have the ASA set to 2.8 seconds and the longest I get the shutter to stay open is 5 seconds in A mode.


I belive in A mode, the camera chooses the shutter speed, and the user (you) only chooses the "A"peture. Nikon users feel free to flam me for stupidity.
 12/03/2005 08:08:21 PM · #20
Originally posted by alansfreed:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Noise reduction should not be used unless it is needed. Under normal circumstances having noise reduction turned on will soften an image.


Can you show me documentation or other proof of this (particularly for images shot under 1/2 a second)? I've always been under the impression that the Long Exposure Noise Reduction would have no effect unless the shot was exposed for a certain length of time... like 1/2 second-ish.


Perhaps with Nikon the noise LENR will turn itself off or have no effect when shot at fast shutter speeds. My 1 series cameras only have a noise reduction option and this will soften an image.
 12/03/2005 08:10:25 PM · #21
Originally posted by wavelength:

I belive in A mode, the camera chooses the shutter speed, and the user (you) only chooses the "A"peture. Nikon users feel free to flam me for stupidity.

Wouldn't A stand for Auto?
P is a pretty good compromise for a beginner.
 12/03/2005 08:12:44 PM · #22
Originally posted by Beetle:
Originally posted by wavelength:

I belive in A mode, the camera chooses the shutter speed, and the user (you) only chooses the "A"peture. Nikon users feel free to flam me for stupidity.

Wouldn't A stand for Auto?
P is a pretty good compromise for a beginner.


However, P does not allow the setting of either aperture or shutter speed. In situations where one or the other is crutial then either aperture priority or shutter priority give better control.
 12/03/2005 08:16:06 PM · #23
No, I was right, I looked it up. A = Apeture and all other setting will be chosen by the camera.

P is pretty useless (to me) because it does not let him choose shutter or apeture, but lets you "adjust all other camera setting" Whatever that means.

-edit SP

Message edited by author 2005-12-03 20:17:32.
 12/03/2005 08:33:32 PM · #24
Set mode to to "A" (apeture priority). Then the camera will calculate the correct exposure based on the f-stop you choose in order to get the depth of field you desire.
 12/03/2005 08:41:07 PM · #25
Originally posted by wavelength:
No, I was right, I looked it up. A = Apeture and all other setting will be chosen by the camera.

P is pretty useless (to me) because it does not let him choose shutter or apeture, but lets you "adjust all other camera setting" Whatever that means.

-edit SP

I think this what the OP meant, and when he referred to 2.8 seconds, that was actually his aperture setting.

raiderboz, shoot in either M(manual) mode or S (Shutter priority mode), both of which allow you to set the shutter speed.

Message edited by author 2005-12-03 20:46:41.
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