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11/23/2005 03:39:48 PM · #1
I imagine lots of you have seen this picture:

kiwiness explains the doing like this:
'I did explain how I did this once before on another photo I did, but I removed it from my portfolio so the explanation disappeared with it. Maybe I will write a tutorial on it someday. But basically you put your camera on a tripod and use the timer to take photos in all different positions. In Photoshop you put all the photos into layers and on each photo cut out what you want to see with the pens tool. Make a vector mask out of the current path and make the final fine tuning before you rasterize it. I usually then use the other/minimum filter on the mask and then a slight gaussian blur so that the edges don't look cut out at all. Do that to each level, merge all together and Bob's your uncle '

I understand the theory of it all but I can't do it myself... (not because stupidity... aehem....) the specific thing that I am missing is this: I don't know how to use vector masks, I think there is the magic of all this. Anyone know a good tutorial that might help me to invite MY brothers to the church?.

Thank you all... and kiwiness, if you see this thread please please write a full length explanation of your work ;)

Thank you
11/23/2005 03:44:57 PM · #2
There's a much easier way to do this which I've used many times:

Open one picture (background) and copy paste another one over it. Set the 2nd layer opacity to 50% and erase where the person is in the background layer. Blur the edges a bit. Set the opacity of the top layer back to 100% and flatten.

Open the next picture, copy and paste it into a new layer in the original image. Set the opacity to 50% and erase again. Blur edges, flatten, lather rinse repeat. :)
11/23/2005 03:45:58 PM · #3
stack the images, on different layers.

add a mask to each layer. Paint black on the mask to hide, white to reveal. Paint a mask around each person, so that just the person shows from each layer.

You're finished. You don't need to mess around with pen tools or masks this way - you just paint white to show, or black to hide.


Took longer to shoot than to photoshop.
11/23/2005 03:47:52 PM · #4
How do you get the edges to look good that way Gordon?
11/23/2005 03:48:18 PM · #5
I did mine like mavric said. Just paste the pictures into various layers and then erase around the area that you don't want. I'm sure that the use of vector masks would make it much easier,but I don;t know how to use them either. :/

11/23/2005 03:53:43 PM · #6
Me Myself & I and some friends only used layer masks with this one...

11/23/2005 04:03:14 PM · #7
O.K.....I'll try to help here :-D

You understand Kiwiness took something like 12 photos. Camera on tripod. He said he used a timer but a remote control is even easier.

Now you have 12 photos exactly the same EXCEPT for the various Kiwi (or whoever) element.

Open into photoshop and drag the photos onto one photo space. (Sorry if I am explaining what you already know to this point..but I am doing this for whoever reads this and doesn't know :-) )

Each of the photos will be a layer now.

Now you get to use the handy-dandy pen tool to create a clipping path.

Go to one of the photos/layers and go to the paths tab (that is the tab located along with your layers tab and your channels tab) and select the path tab and then go to the bottom and click on the little box at the bottom called "Create New Path"

Now, go to you tools bin on the left and select the pen tool. This is the most accurate way to create clipping paths and keep the paths somewhat simple...an important feature when dealing with large and numerous layers. (The reason people in advertising and graphics clip versus erase is you need vector paths to keep file sizes low for catalogue and multiple layer use with big files)

Now the tedious part. You should zoom into your Kiwiness or whatever you are clipping around and start outlining, point by point, a clipping path.

Once you are done clipping the entire outline as accurate as you can you have a path. Go to your layer, right click to bring up your dialogue box and click on "Make Selection". You will be asked to choose the number of pixels to feather the image. I like about 5 pixels at a resolution of 300 dpi on a 3000 x 4000 pixel image but your mileage may vay according to how many pixels your image has or the resolution.

Now you can copy this image and drag it wherever you want or you can select all the surrounding image and reverse clip, leaving only the clipped element unmoved which is what I think Kiwiness did here.

Do this with all the photo layers then merge them and Voila!!!

My question is..is this legal now with Advanced editing? This feels like a loophole in the rules but I don't know...anybody?

Message edited by author 2005-11-23 16:06:56.
11/23/2005 04:07:35 PM · #8
Originally posted by hokie:


My question is..is this legal now with Advanced editing? This feels like a loophole in the rules but I don't know...anybody?


No, since you've got elements from more than one image.
11/23/2005 04:43:25 PM · #9
Originally posted by hokie:

My question is..is this legal now with Advanced editing? This feels like a loophole in the rules but I don't know...anybody?


Nawp.... This is all the way over to photo-manipulation, "digital art" and it is 100% absolutely without question Bob's-your-uncle (to borrow a phrase) ILLegal in DPC.

But thanks for the VERY lucid explanation. Clipping paths are something I've never explored in PS (and I've been using it since version 1.x) and I'm motivated to check them out based on your explanation.

Old bear, new tricks. Beware!

Robt.
11/25/2005 09:28:13 AM · #10
Originally posted by mavrik:

How do you get the edges to look good that way Gordon?


Mad paintbrush skilzz ?

Basically as long as the blending regions are off the body, then it is fine. But I use a lot of ctrl+[/] to vary the edge hardness of the brushes as well as using just straight [/] to vary the brush size.

I've had a fair bit of experience painting masks so I find it pretty trivial to do quickly.
11/25/2005 10:07:04 AM · #11
I did this like a year ago using kiwiness' instructions:
11/25/2005 05:13:51 PM · #12
I know I promised to write a tutorial for this, so I am doing it now, it will be up in the next few days.
11/25/2005 05:45:34 PM · #13
Here's mine. I think it works much better with some changes in clothes.

11/25/2005 06:03:30 PM · #14
Thank you :)

Originally posted by kiwiness:

I know I promised to write a tutorial for this, so I am doing it now, it will be up in the next few days.
11/25/2005 06:37:05 PM · #15
here is my attempt:

//www.pbase.com/adgibson/image/49461405
11/25/2005 11:05:46 PM · #16






All done just using layer masks.....

It's a good way to pass a few hours if you're bored! :-).
11/26/2005 06:27:17 AM · #17
Another old thread on this technique can be found here. I also put my own verbose tutorial there with screenshots of the partially completed image and layer mask examples.

Also, a slightly different effect with the same procedure:

11/26/2005 09:04:47 AM · #18
This looks like something fun to do during the long cold winter. I will have to try this.
11/28/2005 11:58:04 AM · #19
Now I will have to imagine something interesting and creative to give it a try... its a pity my PS expertise is not that great :S
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