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11/21/2005 08:17:45 PM · #1
I have a chance to purchase a new laptop---insurance money from hurricane Wilma....I had a chance to use a powerbook over the weekend and now I am not sure which direction I want to go...also looking at Toshiba, Sony, and HP models.....I want more bang for my buck....around the $1,300 to $1,500 price range....
11/21/2005 08:34:20 PM · #2
This thread might be of interest.

The hard thing is that the laptops Apple has are way behind the PCs in processor power due to hanging onto the Motorola/IBM processors too long. By next summer the first Intel Macs will be out, and laptops as soon as they can manage. That said, who wants a rev.1? Personally I'd stick with a Mac because of the ease of use and of course "it just works", without the hassle of antivirus, malware, firewall threats.

Lynne
both desktop and laptop Macs
11/21/2005 08:51:22 PM · #3
I haven't noticed much, if any, difference in speed between my PowerMac G4 and my PIII 1.2GHz. I would say that it's difficult, at best to say that a Mac and a PC running at the same processor speed are equivalent.

On the whole, I'll take my Mac over the PC.

It really is true that "it just works"

11/21/2005 08:57:24 PM · #4
Originally posted by dagaleaa:

I have a chance to purchase a new laptop---insurance money from hurricane Wilma....I had a chance to use a powerbook over the weekend and now I am not sure which direction I want to go...also looking at Toshiba, Sony, and HP models.....I want more bang for my buck....around the $1,300 to $1,500 price range....


I thought it was just a rhetorical question. Mac - no down time.
11/21/2005 09:07:40 PM · #5
Canon or Casio..
go with the Mac!
11/21/2005 09:26:47 PM · #6
go mac you wont go back...... my powerbook is awesome I love it, no virus'es or most importantly no spyware, I love macs I have used them for years since like high school. I really like them good machines easy to fix. Also the operating system is great no crashing at all, very stable

Message edited by author 2005-11-21 21:27:11.
11/21/2005 09:30:43 PM · #7
I'd really suggest a Mac. I've had experience with Windows, and I personally find my PowerBook G4 to be more appealing. I didn't find much difference between speeds, etc. I noticed that the laptop has hardly ever crashed and everything's easy.

Not sure with PC's, but with the Mac's it's easy to change the file names. Like from .wma to .mp3 and whatnot. Tons easier for me, personally.
11/21/2005 09:36:28 PM · #8
Just lost my 3 1/2 year old Powerbook 15" a month ago and nearly died :-) and after looking about replaced it with the same. (yeah for 0% financing) We've got 6 mac's scattered across family members from flower power iMac and up so had to be a mac. BUT... it's 2000+ for a 15" and I assure you it is very unpleasant doing photo work on the ibook or 12" powerbook so although it pains me deeply to say if you're not already mac committed you'll get more screen and machine at $1300 to $1500 going non mac IMO.
11/21/2005 09:50:01 PM · #9
i got a mac powerbook last year and hardly use my desktop pc for anything other than to play music anymore. mac is so much better, it's the intangibles, just more user friendly.
11/21/2005 09:57:42 PM · #10
hey I have a 12" powerbook and I do photo work on it with out any pain at all. Its great I like the 12" cause its a perfect size to through in my bag and just go wherever. This is my fourth mac and my first mac laptop/powerbook. I have two mac desktops that I use, one for mainly work and one for gaming.

Message edited by author 2005-11-21 21:59:53.
11/21/2005 10:02:34 PM · #11
Originally posted by digitalpins:

hey I have a 12" powerbook and I do photo work on it


Could be my 45 yo eyes and fingers were the trouble :-)
11/21/2005 10:14:21 PM · #12
I grew up on PCs. I built them since i was in jr. high. Played on a few macs and found them really frustrating. There's still a lot less software designed for macs. I would get whatever you're used to. You'll probably get more machine on the PC side, especially if you build it yourself. Plus they're easily upgradable.
11/21/2005 10:41:34 PM · #13
Originally posted by kyebosh:

Plus they're easily upgradable.


They have to be because you have to.
11/21/2005 10:42:48 PM · #14
Linux!

Nordlys
11/21/2005 10:55:04 PM · #15
Originally posted by Nordlys:

Linux!

Nordlys


That's kinda loaded, since you could run the Linux on either the Mac or the PC, or your nearest microwave or electric can opener...

Hands down if you're looking for Bang for the Buck go PC. Besides, buying a Mac now, in the middle of the Intel transition is going to seriously lock you out of some of the newer software that will be arriving after the change.
11/21/2005 11:00:11 PM · #16
Originally posted by kyebosh:

There's still a lot less software designed for macs.


That's not been true since OS X got into its 3rd major release. You want backup utilities? Select from around 40, most recompiled for the Mac from Linux/another flavor of Unix. Are you talking application software? How many choices are realistically taken in the Windows world--how many people don't use MS Office for instance? On Macs, we can choose to use Unix or Mac apps, getting to use the best of both worlds without the punji pit OS. :-)

Speaking of megahertz, they are totally not comparable between processors. Search on "megahertz myth" for some poop about why.
11/21/2005 11:05:41 PM · #17
Originally posted by lynnesite:

--how many people don't use MS Office for instance? On Macs, we can choose to use Unix or Mac apps, getting to use the best of both worlds without the punji pit OS. :-)



Office works great on a Mac. Word works smoother on my G5 the it did on my PC
Originally posted by Nordlys:


Hands down if you're looking for Bang for the Buck go PC


If I want a bang I'll play with explosives. I want a computer that won't crash.
11/22/2005 10:47:33 AM · #18
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by Nordlys:


Hands down if you're looking for Bang for the Buck go PC


Hey, I didn't say that!

Nordlys
11/22/2005 11:12:20 AM · #19
Mac rocks !!! No one can argue with that !! :)
I'm a computer science engineer and technically, Mac OsX is WAYYYY better that Window$ in many many points. So if you don't intend to play on your laptop (Because that's the only area where a PCs are better), go for a Mac, trust me on that. !!
However, if you choose the right side of the force (read Mac side :), wait until January, they should release the new Ibook based on Intel processors.
11/22/2005 11:23:50 AM · #20
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by kyebosh:

Plus they're easily upgradable.


They have to be because you have to.


BS.

I get a bit perturbed by all this PC-bashing. Yes, Mac OS X is a wonderful operating system. Yes, WinXP is in need of an update. Bottom line, they both will do the job, and WinXP will run for months without being rebooted. And Macs DO crash, occasionally. Been there.
I built my current Intel/Windows desktop over two years ago, and will prolly run it for at least another year or two. During that time, it will likely need no hardware repair (hasn't yet) and storage upgrades are the most common change I make to my systems.
Look at the Mac hardware, and you'll see that it uses the PCI bus, soon will use Intel processors... it's getting to be very similar to the PC paltform, hardware-wise.
As far as notebooks, it's a bit of a different question, since you're usually buying a packaged system that will normally not be modified until you replace it. It is true that Mac notebooks are normally a bit pricier than their PC counterparts, but they are very well built machines. There are exceptional PC alternatives as well. Bottom line, if you're used to one or the other, and have a lot of software it could get expensive to make the transition. Photoshop in particular is a problem, since the license is not cross-platform, you need to repurchase for the other platform. Both Mac and PC will continue to be viable platforms, and I don't see any major drivers to switch from one to the other.

11/22/2005 11:31:11 AM · #21
Originally posted by kirbic:

Bottom line, if you're used to one or the other, and have a lot of software it could get expensive to make the transition.


I completely agree with Kirbic, go with what you know.
11/22/2005 11:42:36 AM · #22
imho Macs are vastly better than PCs. With that said, word on the street is the first Apple notebooks powered by Intel processors may be announced as soon as January, so if you decide to go for an Mac you may or may not want to wait. The + side is you'll probably get more bang for your buck with an Intel Mac over a PPC Mac. The - side is you'd have to wait a while for software such as photoshop to run natively on Intel Macs (The current version of photoshop can run, but it would run more slowly due to hardware emulation)
11/22/2005 11:43:03 AM · #23
at my work overlooking a mackingtosh repair shop i have to say that anybody who says that the mac just wont break is full of ****.
the stream of people bringing there broken mac´s dont really look happy.

my PC has never broken down ;)

i might sometime buy a small mac cuz its cute and i want to impress the girls

11/22/2005 11:49:43 AM · #24
lol what are people with macs that are breaking them doing. Ok a harddrive can go but I understand if you drop you laptop/powerbook or ibook. But other than that you really have to be brain dead or doing something your not suppose to if you mess it up to the point where its totally dead. That kinds of goes for any computer. I am not saying they are superhero computers but they are extremly stable (OS X), no viruses or spyware and very reliable. All..all .. all the years I have had macs or used them I only had one if u wanna call it a major problem and that was when my hard drive on my powerbook went, I replaced it myself. Its good as new now.

They have their bugs all computers do but in the long run they are great, performance wise you cant get better and no stress or headaches using them.

Originally posted by Gunni:

at my work overlooking a mackingtosh repair shop i have to say that anybody who says that the mac just wont break is full of ****.
the stream of people bringing there broken mac´s dont really look happy.

my PC has never broken down ;)

i might sometime buy a small mac cuz its cute and i want to impress the girls


Message edited by author 2005-11-22 11:56:13.
11/22/2005 11:59:22 AM · #25
Originally posted by digitalpins:

lol what are people with macs that are breaking them doing. Ok a harddrive can go but I understand if you drop you laptop/powerbook or ibook. But other than that you really have to be brain dead or doing something your not suppose to if you mess it up to the point where its totally dead. That kinds of goes for any computer. I am not saying they are superhero computers but they are extremly stable (OS X), no viruses or spyware and very reliable. All..all .. all the years I have had macs or used them I only had one if u wanna call it a major problem and that was when my hard drive on my powerbook went, I replaced it myself. Its good as new now.

Originally posted by Gunni:

at my work overlooking a mackingtosh repair shop i have to say that anybody who says that the mac just wont break is full of ****.
the stream of people bringing there broken mac´s dont really look happy.

my PC has never broken down ;)

i might sometime buy a small mac cuz its cute and i want to impress the girls


hehe, dont get me wrong im not saying that PC is any better then mac, it can just sometimes annoy me how people the have macs think its the greatest thing since the airplane.
Computers break down, its a matter of fact.
My advice is that you look around, test a mac,test a PC, see wich one you feel better working on.
Buy that one.
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