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 11/10/2005 02:51:14 PM · #1
Hello there,

Newbie here, choosing between the XT or the 20D

What are the differences between the two? Is it worth it to get the 20D?

thanks

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also, is Canon coming out with an upgrade to the 20D? or is that the 5D?

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 11/10/2005 02:55:06 PM · #2
Stick with the 350XT now that you have it. Maybe wait for the 20D's replacement (Feb 2006?) to upgrade?
 11/10/2005 02:58:42 PM · #3
350D is a great "little" camera, that is all I can tell ya.

5D is not a replacement of 20D. 5D is new to the market to fill in the cap between 20D and 1D series. 5D is a FF camera.
 11/10/2005 02:59:43 PM · #4
the 20D isnt for me, its for my fiance, we shoot together, and we're thinking is the cost difference between the two worth the extra features? Does the 20D take better photos (provided all other factors are the same, lens, lighting, photographer)?
 11/10/2005 03:01:04 PM · #5
A 20D, sir, does not need an upgrade.
:-)
 11/10/2005 03:03:41 PM · #6
for me the answer is 20D

Don't get me wrong, I really like my 350D and i'm satisfied with it but if I was to make that choice again I'd go for the 20D for these reason:

1. The size. The 350D is really too small

2. The viewfinder. The 350D is obiously a SLR but the size of the viewfinder is really too small.

3. perfectible auto-focus
 11/10/2005 03:29:18 PM · #7
from a relationship point of view, the 20D will be well worth the investment :-)
 11/10/2005 03:54:52 PM · #8
Originally posted by Ampao64:
the 20D isnt for me, its for my fiance, we shoot together, and we're thinking is the cost difference between the two worth the extra features? Does the 20D take better photos (provided all other factors are the same, lens, lighting, photographer)?


I've never used an XT. It's a newer model than the 20D and may have more advanced technology but their megapixel count and max resolution is about the same. The 20D is bigger and heavier (built on a metal chassis) and should be more durable. I would expect that given the same conditions they will produce nearly equal results. The big difference in performance is the 20D's burst rate speed of 5 frames per second, which is about twice as fast as the XT. If the camera you buy is one you plan to own for a long time; or you want to use it for fast moving action shooting such as sports or birds in flight, then get the 20D.

Personally, I get the 20D just so that you don't have two of the same thing. You'll be able to share lenses either way.
 11/10/2005 04:29:25 PM · #9
Originally posted by Ampao64:
Hello there,

Newbie here, choosing between the XT or the 20D



Neither, hold out for a D200. ;o) December is right around the corner.
 11/10/2005 04:38:43 PM · #10
Originally posted by Beagleboy:
Stick with the 350XT now that you have it. Maybe wait for the 20D's replacement (Feb 2006?) to upgrade?


What have you heard, got any articles or anything to back up this statement.
11/10/2005 06:32:08 PM · #11
I had the 300D for about 4 months before I upgraded to the 20D, and I'll tell you, WHAT A DIFFERENCE .. Other than the general solid feel of the 20D, the thing that made it for me the most was the 3.5 seconds delay when I turn the camera on, I lost so many shots because of it, the 20D is instantly on as soon as you touch the shutter. Also the burst rate is much higher, and the I believe there are more focusing points than the 300D and the 350D ..
 11/10/2005 06:37:15 PM · #12
the 350xt is too small in my opinion - and i am an average size guy.

sharing a camera though the smaller one might be better suited for your needs.


11/10/2005 06:38:37 PM · #13
Originally posted by samanwar:
I had the 300D for about 4 months before I upgraded to the 20D, and I'll tell you, WHAT A DIFFERENCE .. Other than the general solid feel of the 20D, the thing that made it for me the most was the 3.5 seconds delay when I turn the camera on, I lost so many shots because of it, the 20D is instantly on as soon as you touch the shutter. Also the burst rate is much higher, and the I believe there are more focusing points than the 300D and the 350D ..


350xt is instant-on also...

R.
 11/10/2005 07:02:39 PM · #14
My thoughts:

I own a 20D, and the main big common plusses are:

- Size (XT is too small for many guy's hands)
- Speed (it's very very fast)
- Jog-wheel (it is so much easier to use then button pressing)
- More focus points

This is my recommendation:

If you are looking to replace and upgrade, there is little reason to do so from an XT --> 20D.

However, if you are looking to buy a 2nd unit (for a back-up) than buy the 20D and make the XT your backup.

If you are looking for a camera for your fiance and you already have an XT. My thoughts are this. Buy the 20D. Which ever one of you has the larger hands should take the 20D.
 11/10/2005 07:07:17 PM · #15
i have an rebel xt...

I upgraded from a p&s so the size of the rebel was perfect for my large hands :-)

... basically the question is do you mind paying the difference in price, performance wise they are similar with the 20d having an edge when it comes to raw stats, fps and all that other fancy stuff. i think they have the same sensor so the images should be the same or nearly the same and i think the rebel xt has a newer image processor.

11/10/2005 08:40:17 PM · #16
They don't have the same sensor, but their capture performance is "similar".

Except regarding noise. The 20D is less noisy at high ISO, particularly 800 and 1600. But the Rebel XT isn't too bad for noise, much less at high ISO than the original dRebel, and I use ISO 1600 when I need to without too much reservation. As with any digital camera, you have to watch your exposure, as the noise appears in underexposed areas, particularly if you need to increase the exposure during postprocessing (RAW).

I think they both have strong points, the Rebel XT's strengh is size to some (like me, I prefer a smaller camera), and price to all (ok, who "wants" to pay more?). But the 20D should last longer than the Rebel, and has more pro features you are effectively paying for, so maybe that evens it out!


11/10/2005 09:13:24 PM · #17
I love my Rebel XT, and I don't think it's "too small". When you're in the camera store, holding each camera in your hand, the 20D may well feel somewhat more comfortable to grip. But in actual real-life shooting situations, your focus is on getting the shot, not on whether the camera is as comfortable to grip as it could possibly be. I like that the Rebel XT is smaller and lighter, too (685g vs. 490g) And if you buy the Rebel XT, you can put the money you save towards a nice lens :)
 11/11/2005 12:22:05 AM · #18
I'm also purchasing a digital SLR soon, and I wondered what extra features the 20D has over the 350D.
I know it has mirror lock-up (but I don't know how that works, or what it's used for), and a higher burst shot speed, but other than that, are there any advantages as far as features go?
 11/11/2005 12:55:29 AM · #19
here is a side by side comparison

then read the in depth reviews for each camera linked just under the photos
 11/11/2005 12:57:59 AM · #20
Since I don't own either camera I guess I can't really comment too much. But having owned a 300D for nearly 2 years and having been very happy with it I wouldn't have a problem with the 350D I think. But, in saying that, when my time does come to upgrade then I guess the 20D (or it's replacement depending on when I buy) would be the logical move and keep my 300D as a backup! It has been fantastic!
 11/11/2005 01:20:18 AM · #21
The XT and the 20D has same imaging quality, although the 20S has 0.2MP more, the images are pretty much same. Check photo.net and DPReviews comparison of XT's imaging quality vs the 20D.

The extra stuff you are paying for goes toward more fps, magnesium body, better focusing, and some other features. If you need/want the features for the price increase, then it's worth it. If you don't need/want the features for the price increase, then I guess you answered your own question.

Either camera will give you lots of great images, can't go wrong with either one in my opinion.
 11/11/2005 01:27:10 AM · #22
In the 20D, I found the main differences to be the ease and speed of focus even in lowish light and the bodys build and layout. The controls are really easy and quick to use.

Heresanother comparison which explains the strengths and weaknessess of them both
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