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06/23/2003 12:45:40 PM · #1
I have been having problems reducing the sizes of my pics in Photoshop. In Nikon View, my images look great (assuming I did my job as a photographer :)). However, when I load them into PS 6.0 to make them smaller for web viewing, the end result is very disappointing. What gives? Color is off from original and there seems to be a great deal of “pixelation” if that’s a word. Bellow I’ve included some specs to help in the diagnostics. Thanks.

Camera: Nikon D100
Lenses: Nikkor 28-70mm 2.8 IF-ED, Nikkor 80-200mm IF-ED
Format: Jpeg Fine [L]
Color Mode: sRGB III or sRGB I

PS 6.0 workflow: load image, resize (about 550 pixels in longest direction), apply USM. Flatten image, save as jpeg (quality set to 12).

Note: When I load images to PS, the color seems to be greatly desaturated. I have to adjust to original by using a saturation boost and curves.
06/23/2003 12:46:41 PM · #2
Originally posted by jalexander:

I have been having problems reducing the sizes of my pics in Photoshop. In Nikon View, my images look great (assuming I did my job as a photographer :)). However, when I load them into PS 6.0 to make them smaller for web viewing, the end result is very disappointing. What gives? Color is off from original and there seems to be a great deal of “pixelation” if that’s a word. Bellow I’ve included some specs to help in the diagnostics. Thanks.

Camera: Nikon D100
Lenses: Nikkor 28-70mm 2.8 IF-ED, Nikkor 80-200mm IF-ED
Format: Jpeg Fine [L]
Color Mode: sRGB III or sRGB I

PS 6.0 workflow: load image, resize (about 550 pixels in longest direction), apply USM. Flatten image, save as jpeg (quality set to 12).

Note: When I load images to PS, the color seems to be greatly desaturated. I have to adjust to original by using a saturation boost and curves.


Can you link us to some example images?

-Terry
06/23/2003 12:52:40 PM · #3
Photoshop tends not to do such a good job of previewing pictures in anything other than 'Actual Size' mode. If you zoom out, images will look more pixellated than on some other imaging programs. This will not reflect in the final image.
Hope this helps,
Bob
06/23/2003 12:52:46 PM · #4
Unfortunately I don’t have any pics to link with me. I'll try to get some pics to link tomorrow.
06/23/2003 12:57:13 PM · #5
I view my pics at 100% in PS but they still dont look as beautiful as they could. I also view the jpegs by opening them directly from source (i.e. not through Nikon view or PS). Just to be fair, some images do come out good. But most are toublesome.
06/23/2003 02:24:27 PM · #6
IMO, the "resize" option is not really the best way of doing what you're asking for. I suggest you:

1) get the picture looking like you'd like it.
2) Use the "Save for the Web" option (under "FILE")
3) Set the desired image dimentions using the "Image Size" on the right.
4) then, Click the little arrow on the right (the one to the left of "settings". It's hard to find, but easy to come back to.)
5) choose "Optimize to File Size" option.
6) enter a file size that seems right for the targeted application (i.e. the max DPChallenge will allow)
7) Taa-Daa!!

Note: I always use 140 Kb for the filesize on DPchallenge. It actually looks about as good as the higher settings, AND it really helps those people with dial-up ISP.

I hope this help a little, I struggled with the same problem fo quite a while.
06/23/2003 02:41:24 PM · #7
I think starting with PS 6 Adobe changed the color model used internally--if you open up an old scan (for example) it will "Convert" the colors. I forget the details, but I'm pretty sure Adobe will have an archived tech note on the subject. I still use PS 5 to avoid all that BS--for what I usually do (especially at DPC) the newer versions offer nothing I seem to need ....
06/23/2003 02:44:08 PM · #8
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I think starting with PS 6 Adobe changed the color model used internally--if you open up an old scan (for example) it will "Convert" the colors. I forget the details, but I'm pretty sure Adobe will have an archived tech note on the subject. I still use PS 5 to avoid all that BS--for what I usually do (especially at DPC) the newer versions offer nothing I seem to need ....


The PS6/PS7 color model actually makes some sense though, the earlier versions seemed to have been designed by a slightly adled programmer.

Probably the colour errors are being cased because your other viewers are not 'colour profile aware'. If you assign your images to sRGB in photoshop (rather than convert) you should get the same result, though
you might not actually be wanting to this.

//www.digitaldog.net has several good primers in the 'tips' section on PS7 colour management configuration and what all the knobs and buttons actually mean.
06/23/2003 02:49:30 PM · #9
Originally posted by Gordon:

The PS6/PS7 color model actually makes some sense though, the earlier versions seemed to have been designed by a slightly adled programmer ....

Well, sometime back in the fifties (I think) Sweden changed their driving laws from driving on the left (British-style) to the right (USA-style). I'm sure it "made sense," but probably created a bit of havoc in the meantime.

I think "color management" means adding another management-level employee who can be fired if the color on a big job gets screwed up.
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