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11/22/2002 01:26:59 AM · #1 |
Hi
I am a newbie,I only have 1.5 mega pixels,Fujifilm mx.1700.
Will this be ok to start with to enter the challenges.
This web site is so good.
Thankyou for your time
Andrew |
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11/22/2002 01:37:58 AM · #2 |
Oh yea, that little jewel should produce acceptable images for this forum.
In fact, many folks submit images from cameras that have less resolution and fewer features ' - )
And welcome to DPChallenge! |
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11/22/2002 01:55:11 AM · #3 |
| Don´t worry Andrew! People have 4-5 megapixel-cameras and still can´t get the focus OK. So keep your camera steady and shoot. I have bought myself an onelegged tripod and it´s so useful. |
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11/22/2002 02:18:04 AM · #4 |
REDFIG...The same kind of question came up the other day, but I can't find the thread now. In it, I mentioned a tutorial that I had written, which is currently on photosig. Drew said that when we launch DPC2 that he might want the tutorial on here too, however, for now it resides there. If you want to check it out, and I think you would be interested, the link is here. Cheap Enhancements for "low end" digital cameras.
Hope this helps. I'm only running on 2mp, so I understand it can be difficult at times. Good luck, look forward to seeing your stuff!
~Heather~
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11/22/2002 02:41:57 AM · #5 |
Most of the suggestions in that tutorial aren't just for low-end cameras; they apply to everyone. Of course you shouldn't zoom when taking a macro shot etc.
The use of good, diffuse full-spectrum light, whenever possible, cannot be understated. The lesser-quality digicams tend to handle lower light situations very poorly. Avoid the flash unless absolutely necessary.
Learn how to use your photo-editing software! Make sure you know what you're doing with the contrast enhancements and sharpening, and the exporting of high-quality jpegs.
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11/22/2002 12:38:15 PM · #6 |
Redfig - Welcome aboard!
Biggest advice I can give you is - Point and Shoot cameras can take very good pictures. My wife has a Fuji finepix 2600 that takes great pictures. Take pictures within the limits of your camera. It may require a little extra setup but we'll all be happier with the results. We won't be looking for any cheetahs streaking by at just before dark pictures from you : ) !! Good Luck. I hope you can learn as much on here as I have. - Bob
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11/22/2002 01:13:13 PM · #7 |
Aloha Andrew!
All that is required here is a digital capable of 640 x 480 (i.e. virtually any digital) and a desire to learn. A thick skin comes in handy at times too... Be aware that the folks here aren't timid about telling you when you have a flaw in your picture :) But that's a great way to find out what you need to work on :)
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11/22/2002 01:39:04 PM · #8 |
| Welcome aboard Redfig. Some of us in the present challege took it up as a challenge to use .9 or 1.3 Megapixel cameras. I'm using a 1.3 Megapixel Aiptek and have gotten some good comments that I'm using to learn about in dealing with the limitations of the little point and shoot. After the challenge is over I'll try to get the other two competitors (Gordon and Magnetic9999) together and post a forum about what we learned that you may apply to help in your future work. It helps to have a decent place to start and there's no sense in repeating our mistakes. Hope we can help in the near future. |
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11/22/2002 02:06:13 PM · #9 |
heya, red fig :) where are you from ?
HERE IS a folder of pictures i took with a 1.3 mpx canon a10 : )
I just entered a challenge with this camera, so yours should be even better : )!
Originally posted by redfig:
Hi
I am a newbie,I only have 1.5 mega pixels,Fujifilm mx.1700.
Will this be ok to start with to enter the challenges.
This web site is so good.
Thankyou for your time
Andrew
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11/22/2002 03:37:25 PM · #10 |
Hi
Thankyou very much for all your help,This must be the best web site for photogaphy.
Well I can not wait to try the next challenge.I have so much to learn,
Andrew (redfig} |
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11/25/2002 12:58:39 AM · #11 |
Redfig, I thought I’d share a few things I learned using the little 1.3 Megapixel Aiptek camera for the technology challenge. My shot was “Technology Just Makes It Easier”. The limitations of the camera were quite entertaining to overcome and as my score shows I didn’t overcome them that well. Perhaps this list of what I did wrong can help prevent you from making the same mistakes.
1) Don’t spend more time making props than making your shot. I should have learned the camera better prior to the shoot. I spent too much time gathering stuff and not enough time getting to know my camera. What I saw through the viewfinder is not what showed up in the image. Quick and dirty: Learn your camera.
2) Do not over lighten your shots. One of the things I’ve learned is that monitors are not calibrated evenly among the DPC viewers. Most of my previous shots seemed OK on my home monitor but came out too dark on other monitors so I intentionally lightened this shot. If you notice in the comments I must have gotten it too light. Quick and dirty: Learn what the “average” monitor may show, not just your own.
3) Make sure you have good composition in the shot to avoid what I had to do. I had to rotate my shot a bit and according to GeneralE in one of the other forums this can introduce “artifacts” into the shot. Quick and dirty: Learn composition so you don’t have to putz with the shot as much in your editing software.
4) Know the limitations of you camera. The strange color in the shot comes from how the camera could not handle the red of the background I chose. I think the dynamic range of the camera is limited and may have been the reason for some of the artifacts in 5 below. Quick and dirty: Again, know your camera.
5) Do not over sharpen your shot. My Sony 707 has smaller pixels so I did not encounter this problem until I used the Aiptek (well, maybe it wasn’t as visible until I used the Aiptek). Notice the difference in the two blow-ups of the grenade below. The red splotches and the darker spots in the shadow of the grenade may be the reason for most of the “grain” comments I received. Quick and dirty: Learn when enough is enough when you edit your shot.
Original Image
 Notice some of the pixels have been “intensified” and generate a grainy appearance in the shot.
A couple of other things you may find useful here as a newcomer. Notice in the comments the wide differences of opinion we have in the viewers here on DPC. Some thought the background color was a good choice and some thought it a bad choice. Remember that not everyone sees your photo as you do. This one of the most interesting aspects of the site, seeing your shot through others eyes.
I’m hoping Gordon and Magnetic9999 will share some of the things they know/learned while using their sub 2 Megapixel cameras also. I hope some of the above proves helpful, if not to you then someone else.
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/25/2002 10:15:48 AM.
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11/25/2002 01:27:25 PM · #12 |
Hi
Thankyou seeker for your help,Its been a big help,
I am here trying to think of Blue.
Yours
Redfig |
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11/25/2002 02:00:09 PM · #13 |
so here we are at the end of technology challenge : )
Seeker, Gordon and I decided to deviate from our usual equipment and use more inexpensive cameras to see if it really makes a big difference.
luckily for us, that challenge didnt have any stringent technical requirements like 'stopped motion' or 'macro' .. it was a general shot. and i woould probably have reservations entering a technical challenge like one of those with this camera, compared to another. nonetheless, it can still take a great shot under the right circumstances : ) ..
I will talk about my own shot, the others can add their own info as desired.
the main things that i really tried to look out for were:
- providing enough light so the small ccd could expose with minimal noise
-sharpest focus/lack of camera shake i could get
-filling the frame with the subject (you dont wanna do too much cropping, downsampling with lower pixel counts)
These are the OUTTAKES THAT I DIDNT SUBMIT. Note that the first 4 images in the folder were shot with my Olympus E-10. The rest were with a 1.3 mpx Powershot A10. $199 last year from State Street Direct : ) ..
I was torn between the astronaut and the engine but went with the spaceman. Surprisingly, the pic ended up in the top 20% showing that the camera quality didnt detract from people's response to the image, given the previous considerations were carefully met. (believe me, you have to work hard but that's good for you!)
I hope this encourages people with lower priced cams with fewer controls to feel more optimistic about the potential in their hardware.
As some famous photographer said "find a great subject and 90% of your work is done".
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11/26/2002 04:43:17 PM · #14 |
Hi
Thankyou for all your help,I have sent in my very first photo,I realy enjoyed Looking around to find an idia in Blue,It realy makes you look at things in a new way .
Redfig
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12/05/2002 11:58:17 AM · #15 |
While floating around this wonderful new site, I discovered that my camera is at 0.3 megapixels, while the higher end cameras are 3-4 and even 6. While I know that my camera is little more than a toy, I was just wondering what on earth a megapixel is and what it does. Thanks!
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12/05/2002 12:02:43 PM · #16 |
Okay I'm no expert but here is what I've always thought mega pixels are.
I think they are the number of millions of pixels that your camera can produce in an image. This can effect the quality, DPI, (dot/pixels per inch) and/or resolution size of the final image.
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12/05/2002 01:42:12 PM · #17 |
But if I have a photo taken at 640x480, that's only 307,200 pixels. There can't be more or less than that, because then it wouldn't be a 640x480 photo anymore...?
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12/05/2002 01:45:36 PM · #18 |
the DPI/megapixels is normally when the image is being printed. It will not effect the screen resolution, but it will effect the size of the print (in cm, inches, or whatever)
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12/05/2002 01:48:10 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Gracechild7:
But if I have a photo taken at 640x480, that's only 307,200 pixels. There can't be more or less than that, because then it wouldn't be a 640x480 photo anymore...? |
That's only for the final image for DPC. While shooting, the cameras can do higher resolutions that that - For example, a 3.9/4mpix camera can do a resolution of up to 2272 x 1704, which gives 3,871,488 pixels.
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12/05/2002 01:49:54 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Konador:
the DPI/megapixels is normally when the image is being printed. It will not effect the screen resolution, but it will effect the size of the print (in cm, inches, or whatever) |
The DPI is different from the MPixels:
- DPI (Dots Per Inch) is how many pixels there are over a specific area (in this case per square inch)
- MPixels is just the total number of pixels regardless of area.
Message edited by author 2002-12-05 13:50:21.
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12/06/2002 05:13:14 PM · #21 |
my camera is listed on this site as .03 megapixels. which would be 640x480. my camera CAN take pictures in this mode. normally, i use the highest resolution i can: 1280x960. which would 1.2 megapixels. which is not so bad. however, the jpeg compression (in camera) eats me alive on this site. i don't mind it personally, but no one else here likes it.
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Notice some of the pixels have been “intensified” and generate a grainy appearance in the shot.
