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09/17/2005 11:17:53 PM · #1 |
There's a thread elsewhere on the Cindy Sheehan Bus Tour, where some "political" comments were made. I've drifted over here to start a rant:
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It burns my butt when people make comments implying (or asserting) that people who protest a war out of conscience are being somehow disrespectful of those who have died in that war. It's like, "How dare you criticize the war when brave Americans have died to protect the freedoms you are taking for granted?"
Let's not even GO into whether or not the Iraq war is actually "protecting our freedoms" as that's immaterial to my point. My point is this:
"In what sense is it disrespectful to exercise the very freedoms our soldiers are protecting?"
Voltaire said it best, if not first: "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Robt.
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09/17/2005 11:25:59 PM · #2 |
IMHO by going to war they're protecting our right to voice our oppinions. They should be proud that people are exercising the rights they're fighting to uphold.
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09/17/2005 11:45:01 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by bfox2:
IMHO by going to war they're protecting our right to voice our oppinions. They should be proud that people are exercising the rights they're fighting to uphold. |
Since when has this "invasion" got to do with "protecting our right to voice our opinions".
Don't you live in a democracy ? Don't the protesters have a right to voice their own opinions ?
In that thread bear mentioned one post actually said that the womens son would be ashamed of his mother. How the hell does he know that, for goodness sake the women is grieving at the senseless loss of a son that was sent to fight in another country based on lies told by your politicians, remember Weapons of Mass Destruction. I don't ever remember hearing we are going to war to "protecting our right to voice our opinions". |
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09/17/2005 11:52:50 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
Originally posted by bfox2:
IMHO by going to war they're protecting our right to voice our oppinions. They should be proud that people are exercising the rights they're fighting to uphold. |
Since when has this "invasion" got to do with "protecting our right to voice our opinions".
Don't you live in a democracy ? Don't the protesters have a right to voice their own opinions ?
In that thread bear mentioned one post actually said that the womens son would be ashamed of his mother. How the hell does he know that, for goodness sake the women is grieving at the senseless loss of a son that was sent to fight in another country based on lies told by your politicians, remember Weapons of Mass Destruction. I don't ever remember hearing we are going to war to "protecting our right to voice our opinions". |
I wasn't talking about the war in Iraq specifically, it's just every time my pro-war friends talk about the US troops in general they're always going on about how the soldiers have always fought to protect our freedom so any bad mouthing of war constitutes anti-american sentiment.
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09/17/2005 11:59:07 PM · #5 |
I dont believe war has ever solved a problem. I think war is one of the stupidest things man ever came up with. I think anyone that kills another human being for any reason is a murderer. I think the death penalty is wrong. I think sending soldiers to Iraq was a mistake. And I think people have a right to express their opinions, especially in America.
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09/18/2005 12:39:32 AM · #6 |
There’s no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated
Sometimes the smallest softest voice carries the grand biggest solutions
 - Fat Mike
Message edited by author 2005-09-18 00:39:48.
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09/18/2005 12:43:10 AM · #7 |
War notwithstanding...everyone is entitled to the right to exercise their freedoms within the law. Whether or not I agree with HOW some choose to exercise them is moot. They can, and they do. They should be able to do so. One particular issue that causes a lot of grief is the abortion issue. I might not get an abortion myself, but I would most certainly defend every woman's right to make that decision for herself.
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09/18/2005 12:48:31 AM · #8 |
The abortion thing is a whole different ball of wax...the issue there is not whether a woman should have control over her own body, but whether she should have control over life/mush-of-cells (depending on what you believe) inside of her.
Anyway, bear...I completely agree with you. |
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09/20/2005 06:33:37 PM · #9 |
Wow- a thread that I actually agree with. Bear - you are dead on and you articulate it so well that your words are my thoughts exactly!!! Nico Blue - I'm in concurrance with your viewpoints as well. I never could see how killing someone for a crime is punishing them. Sure it costs alot of money to keep someone within the prison system, but isn't that what punishment is? Dying and going onto another plane, or whatever you believe is not punishment to me. Now if you believe in reincarnation, you may have a crappy next life, but on this earth, dying is not punishment as far as I'm concerned. The people who are punished are the loved ones left behind. Killing is killing no matter how you look at it, so killing a person for killing another just doesn't quite work for me.
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09/20/2005 06:38:20 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by nico_blue:
I dont believe war has ever solved a problem. I think war is one of the stupidest things man ever came up with. I think anyone that kills another human being for any reason is a murderer. I think the death penalty is wrong. I think sending soldiers to Iraq was a mistake. And I think people have a right to express their opinions, especially in America. |
Ditto. And I know abortion is kind of a different issue, but it also kind of isn't. Killing is wrong. No one should have the right to say whether or not another human should die. Again, I am just stating my opinion, which is one of my rights. :) |
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09/20/2005 07:08:34 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by nico_blue:
I dont believe war has ever solved a problem. I think war is one of the stupidest things man ever came up with. I think anyone that kills another human being for any reason is a murderer. I think the death penalty is wrong. I think sending soldiers to Iraq was a mistake. And I think people have a right to express their opinions, especially in America. |
whether you agree with the war or not, calling our soldiers 'murderers' in the same context that you would call john wayne gacey, o.j. simpson etc and other cold blooded killers is, in my mind, pretty disrespectful. But like Bear said, you've got to right to say that...
I just wonder if you really mean that we have thousands and thousands of people from our country that are really 'murderers'?
I'm not saying war is a good thing. |
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