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09/01/2005 04:28:57 PM · #1
Just wondering if anyone else feels this way?
Most of the photos in my profile seem to go over well, then I enter a challenge and I suck. Is it that I'm trying too hard when it comes to challenges or is it I just suck all the time?
Maybe when people look at your portfolio pics and comment they should still tell you what score you would get if they saw it in a challenge.
Yes I'm bored! LOL!
Anyone?
09/01/2005 04:31:08 PM · #2
I think that when people see a photo in a portfolio they normally don't go out of their way to say anything negative about it...whereas in a challenge they vote on the photo whether they like it or not.

09/01/2005 04:38:42 PM · #3
and when they vote in a challenge they seem to take a negative, overally critical 'look'
09/01/2005 04:42:33 PM · #4
a little piece of my profile statement:
" I have also noticed that i like the photos i take for myself alot more than the ones i take for a challenge."

i think thats its more about the artistic freedom you get when u take a photo for yourself and can make it a copy of your personal(mental) vision. i was given a very helpful tip( cant remember exactly who it was...sorry) where he said to take photos for me and if they fit the challenge and i like it then enter. i was busy taking a photo for a challenge and they were scoring in the 4's. since i have heeded this advice( thanks a bunch by the way who ever u were)my scores have jumped back up to the mid 5's and my current D&L entry is running a 6! now i can concentrate on my technical skills again and not so much about a certain "vision" i want that i have no idea how to accomplish yet. I am no longer worried how it will score or be percieved while i am setting my photo up. sometimes its hard because you will have to skip a challenge but the out come is by far much more appealing when u score better.

personal note to you mysticalprincess: your photos are awesome. from the very first entry( first photo of your i ever saw which was a fav the second i voted it) i have been your admirer.your sideline cheer section.i love your style and all of your photos have emotion attached to them. I can tell you put alot of your self into your work and it hasnt gone unnoticed by me. :o)

Message edited by author 2005-09-01 16:43:33.
09/01/2005 04:48:48 PM · #5
Originally posted by mystical_princess:

Just wondering if anyone else feels this way?
Most of the photos in my profile seem to go over well, then I enter a challenge and I suck. Is it that I'm trying too hard when it comes to challenges or is it I just suck all the time?
Maybe when people look at your portfolio pics and comment they should still tell you what score you would get if they saw it in a challenge.
Yes I'm bored! LOL!
Anyone?


OMG.. i definately know what you mean.. I always suck when i enter challenges (more so than usual). I am sitting on 4.6 in shoes. It is like when someone tells you what to shoot you have no inspiration etc. Where as if you are just shooting what you love it shows though on the photo. I know exactly how you feel.
09/01/2005 07:02:50 PM · #6
Posted by :smilebig4me1x "personal note to you mysticalprincess: your photos are awesome. from the very first entry( first photo of your i ever saw which was a fav the second i voted it) i have been your admirer.your sideline cheer section.i love your style and all of your photos have emotion attached to them. I can tell you put alot of your self into your work and it hasnt gone unnoticed by me. :o)"

Cher, Thank you! As I am one of yours!
09/01/2005 07:32:24 PM · #7
Will you all cut that whinin already? How many threads can you open with the same cry?

If you want to be good photographers, just get this into your heads, once and for all:
Challenges say nothing about your photographic and artistic skills.
Challenges only show how much you fit the mob.
And personally, I don't find that a compliment.

And you know what? if you think otherwise, maybe you deserve that.
09/01/2005 07:43:23 PM · #8
Huh?
This is the first time I've ever posted anything like this.
Sorry won't do it again!

Message edited by author 2005-09-01 19:44:19.
09/01/2005 07:44:44 PM · #9
Myst, I saw your portfolio and imho you are very good. I like your work.

I share your sentiment about the challenges, however, what DPC has done for me is caused me to shoot in ways that are out of my comfort zone and that has been more valuable than any ribbon.
09/01/2005 07:54:41 PM · #10
Sorry to side track a little bit, but has anyone else wondered if some people just go through and give everyone a 1 or 2 in hopes that it will improve their score? I just can't believe that the top 3 pictures from the last dairy challenge got 10 votes of either 1 or 2. The top three for nudes also got 1s and 2s. Are some people really just that bad at seeing a great picture?
09/01/2005 07:57:52 PM · #11
Originally posted by princessfriesen:

Sorry to side track a little bit, but has anyone else wondered if some people just go through and give everyone a 1 or 2 in hopes that it will improve their score? I just can't believe that the top 3 pictures from the last dairy challenge got 10 votes of either 1 or 2. The top three for nudes also got 1s and 2s. Are some people really just that bad at seeing a great picture?


their votes get deleted at the end of the challenge if it is done to a large section. Sure there will be a couple that vote 1 and 2 for the great pictures, out of sour grapes, but they don't last long on sites like this when they figure out it doesnt work.

Message edited by author 2005-09-01 19:58:11.
09/01/2005 07:58:24 PM · #12
Originally posted by princessfriesen:

Sorry to side track a little bit, but has anyone else wondered if some people just go through and give everyone a 1 or 2 in hopes that it will improve their score? I just can't believe that the top 3 pictures from the last dairy challenge got 10 votes of either 1 or 2. The top three for nudes also got 1s and 2s. Are some people really just that bad at seeing a great picture?


Yeah , wonder that myself a time or two. I love dpc and in general I think everyone here is great. I wasn't really trying to whin or complian, I was just wondering if others felt the same.
09/01/2005 08:00:28 PM · #13
Mys, Cher is right - your portfolio pictures are "beter' than you challenge ones because you shoot the former out of passion to shoot and the latter out of need to complete a challenge.

Nothing wrong with a bit of pashion is there?

p.s. i'd love to see your bio pic larger, i love that photo.

Message edited by author 2005-09-01 20:09:36.
09/01/2005 08:06:15 PM · #14
Yep I feel the same way. Its kind of like a test I would take in school, I know all the answers but when it comes to the test...I freeze.

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09/01/2005 08:34:04 PM · #15
Taking a photograph that meets a theme is usually done by one of two approaches: visualize your own viewpoint or "take" on the theme and turn it into a reality or: attempt to fashion a winning image based on knowledge of what has won in the past and replicating components of that winner. The first way I mentioned is artistry in developement and could take as much as years to bear fruit, but when it does, you are who you are. The second way will bring you reward quicker, but you will be no nearer yourself as an artist than when you first bought the camera.

edit: Final word, the reason your portfolio seems richer is that it is you as you have arrived at that moment.

Message edited by author 2005-09-01 20:36:17.
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