Voting on D&L Submissions - DPChallenge Forums

08/29/2005 09:13:34 AM · #1

Ok...I am fairly new here and am hoping for some direction....
For the D&L Challenge, how important is everyone making the &? Are you voting lower if the title is just D____ L______ vs. D____ & L______? My title contained the &, but I am trying to determine an accurate and fair way to vote on submissions that don't.

loseme

08/29/2005 09:24:10 AM · #2

I think it is really up to personal opinion. I am a little more rigid in my voting, I really like it to be D & L, I think the & is important. But that's just me :)

ArpeggioAngel

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/29/2005 09:25:56 AM · #3

I kind of feel the same way...do you note in your comments to the individual that it should have an & to meet the challenge?

mandyturner

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

08/29/2005 09:26:35 AM · #4

If the title contains a "D" word and a "L" word, than it works for me. I think that some people get way too picky about titles. Lets focus on the photography.

Fibre Optix

08/29/2005 09:27:53 AM · #5

I don't care if you don't have a &.

marmalade1121

Canon EOS-1D X

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/29/2005 09:28:56 AM · #6

I agree with Mandy. I'd rather see a really phenom pic of something D_L than another one titled Darkness & Light (although some of those were inspired and beautiful and I don't mean to bash on those specifically, just trying to make a point).

CalliopeKel

Canon EOS-5D

08/29/2005 09:41:11 AM · #7

Since we knew this might be an issue prior to the voting, it makes good sense to err on the safe side if at all possible.

Mine has an &. But I gave out about 8 10s, and I honestly didn't consider the titles all that much. In fact I can't remember what the titles were at all. I'll have to go look again! :)

Edit: Went to look at my favorites of the challenge. Some have the & sign, and some are just descriptive titles. Either way, they met the challenge for me. Because both of the words have to tie into the photo, so that covers all the bases for me.

Message edited by author 2005-08-29 09:47:05.

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

08/29/2005 09:43:12 AM · #8

I disagree big time. When I was trying to come up with an image for this challenge there were many D/L combo's that didn't work with the & in the middle. This narrowed down the choices by selecting a D/L combination that DID work with the word AND in between.

It was specifically mentioned in the challenge title (D&L) AND it was mentioned in the challenge description: "Be creative, and title your shot with your D&L definition!"

For example: Damp Lines sounds fine this way, but try it with Damp & Lines...doesn't work.

The 'AND' does make a difference.

Originally posted by mandyturner:

If the title contains a "D" word and a "L" word, than it works for me. I think that some people get way too picky about titles. Lets focus on the photography.

ArpeggioAngel

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

08/29/2005 09:48:07 AM · #9

I agree that there are a lot of great pics without the use of &/AND in the title. I want to be able to vote on just the quality of the photo, but feel that the requirements for the challenge includeded the use of &/AND in the title. In some challenges I believe the title shouldn't really reflect on the quality of the photo, but for this particular challenge....I just am not sure....

ajschel

Fujifilm FinePix X100S

08/29/2005 09:54:24 AM · #10

Of course I look mostly at the quality of the photo. But personally I'm very strict in sticking to challenge rules, so I think the & should be in between D&L. For instance, whenever I consider a photo worth let's say a 6 or 7, the absence of the & sign makes me give it a 6. Would it have been there, I would have voted 7. That's my way. I agree with glad2badad that it narrows the choice of challenge subjects, and in that way forces people to be more creative in choosing a subject, and I like that, that's the challenge as well for me. Not just the making of a good photo.

Sherri1209

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS USM

08/29/2005 09:58:53 AM · #11

Originally posted by ajschel:

I agree 100% - The mark down isn't significant, but the title was a large part of this challenge.

skief

Pentax *ist DS

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

08/29/2005 10:01:15 AM · #12

Man, should have named mine D&ndyLion then I'd've had that ampersand in there. Just kidding, mine has neither a dandylion, nor a lion in it.

esdarby

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

08/29/2005 10:09:37 AM · #13

gonna take back the comment i left here becaues apparently i'm an ass and misread the comment...i apologized to the commentor and now will go try to get my foot from my mouth so i can take a Shoes photo. :)

Message edited by author 2005-08-29 16:00:10.

Canon EOS-60D

08/29/2005 10:10:32 AM · #14

Originally posted by mandyturner:

If the title contains a "D" word and a "L" word, than it works for me. I think that some people get way too picky about titles. Lets focus on the photography.

Amen, sista.

doctornick

Apple iPhone 13 Pro

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

08/29/2005 10:11:37 AM · #15

Originally posted by laurielblack:

Originally posted by mandyturner:
If the title contains a "D" word and a "L" word, than it works for me. I think that some people get way too picky about titles. Lets focus on the photography.

Amen, sista.

LMAOO, this never ends...

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

08/29/2005 10:17:47 AM · #16

Originally posted by laurielblack:

ajschel

Fujifilm FinePix X100S

08/29/2005 10:21:31 AM · #17

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I have an idea...let's just throw out all the rules, the challenge descriptions, challenge titles, etc...who needs them anyway?

Oh, that's right - this is a Challenge site. Hmmm...maybe there are supposed to be some rules and guidelines.

As in life, some people follow the rules and some just choose to ignore them. Vote however you want - but for me, the entries that play by the rules will stand a better chance of scoring higher.

Originally posted by laurielblack:

Originally posted by mandyturner:
If the title contains a "D" word and a "L" word, than it works for me. I think that some people get way too picky about titles. Lets focus on the photography.

Amen, sista.

Amen, brotha. LOL

KaDi

Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

08/29/2005 10:48:22 AM · #18

Originally posted by esdarby:

I only have 4 comments this morning and a pretty low score. Not bothered by the score, but one of my comments is just ridiculous. It simply reads, "Better title...Duh loser!!!!!!" from this [url omitted] who registered a month and a half ago and has entered not one challenge.

if you can't say anything better than "Duh loser!!!", just stay away and keep your mouth shut...if you have a problem with the title, fine...say so constructively...comments are welcome good and bad...but calling someone a loser over a photo title is pretty juvenile...especially for a 28 year old man...give that 20D to someone that deserves it!

Nice of you to call him out here! If you have a problem with his comment why not just PM him instead of making an issue of an individual in the forums?

CEJ

Canon EOS-40D

08/29/2005 10:58:42 AM · #19

When a challenge specifically states "your title should be your D&L" how can you avoid the title? How can you vote a shot high - good or bad - if the title doesn't meet the specific requirement of the challenge?

esdarby

08/29/2005 11:25:12 AM · #20

Originally posted by KaDi:

Nice of you to call him out here! If you have a problem with his comment why not just PM him instead of making an issue of an individual in the forums?

if someone is going to act like a child, then they should be called out in front of the class like a child...we're here to share photography and learn...not call people names for no good reason

bicray

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM

08/29/2005 11:30:17 AM · #21

Originally posted by esdarby:

Originally posted by KaDi:
Nice of you to call him out here! If you have a problem with his comment why not just PM him instead of making an issue of an individual in the forums?

if someone is going to act like a child, then they should be called out in front of the class like a child...we're here to share photography and learn...not call people names for no good reason

If maverick voting continues to increase it will be essential to name and shame the mavericks to save the site.

KaDi

08/29/2005 12:43:15 PM · #22

Originally posted by esdarby:

I'll try to keep that in mind for the time you make a mistake in your comments. =)
(BTW, I'm not in anyway defending what the person who commented on your photo said, but I'm not going to publically condemn it either.)

KaDi

08/29/2005 12:44:14 PM · #23

Originally posted by bicray:

If maverick voting continues to increase it will be essential to name and shame the mavericks to save the site.

Really? This is about saving the site?

bicray

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM

08/29/2005 12:51:57 PM · #24

Originally posted by KaDi:

Originally posted by bicray:

If maverick voting continues to increase it will be essential to name and shame the mavericks to save the site.

Really? This is about saving the site?

Could be! There is so much maverick voting at the moment (read almost any thread concerning challenges) that there is a real danger that many disheartened serious contributors will disappear. What is the point in making real efforts to produce good work and then to have it rubbished by these mavericks and sometimes in a very discourteous manner.

Message edited by author 2005-08-29 12:53:51.

esdarby