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08/23/2005 11:34:16 AM · #1
Just got this via email: (not sure if this information is true, but anyways)

Originally posted by recieved via email:

FYI

Planet Mars will be the brightest in the night sky starting August.
It will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye.This will
cultimate
on Aug. 27 when Mars comes within 34.65M miles of earth.
Be sure to watch the sky on Aug. 27 2005 on 00:30 am. It will look like
the
earth has 2 moons. The next time Mars may come this close is in 2287.
Share this with ur friends as NO ONE ALIVE TODAY will ever see it
again...


Get ur telephoto lenses, this should be kwel!
08/23/2005 11:37:22 AM · #2
It's a hoax (and a pretty obvious one at that).
08/23/2005 11:37:29 AM · #3
This is an internet hoax. Various forms of it have been making the rounds for some time.
08/23/2005 11:45:05 AM · #4
wow, back to back site counsel smack downs inside of 4 minutes :)

I'll take a look outside anyway, scuds ... just i think your tattoo is badass!

:)
08/23/2005 11:45:36 AM · #5
The email was accurate two years ago, in that Mars was closer to earth than it had ever been or would be for a long time. However, Mars was never close enough to appear to the naked eye "as large as the full moon", that part is just silliness.

Mars Marlarkey @ Sky and Telescope

Message edited by author 2005-08-23 11:46:58.
08/23/2005 11:46:55 AM · #6
Originally posted by hopper:

wow, back to back site counsel smack downs inside of 4 minutes :)

I'll take a look outside anyway, scuds ... just i think your tattoo is badass!

:)


LoL!!!!

Well, I thought so, it sounded too "jetson's" too be true!
You guys are so very fast at finding stuff, yall should be making rivers of money on google!
I'll never use it again, i'll just ask you guys hahaha!
08/23/2005 11:56:03 AM · #7
Frig. I took the bait...I know nothing about astronomy so I took it for truth when I heard about it earlier this month.

Seriously, everyone believes this though! Everyone's been looking outside for Mars the last few weeks!!!

I can't believe I'm admitting it but I totally fell for that one.
08/23/2005 12:04:20 PM · #8
sounds like someone doesn't understand distance and size. The only way Mars will look the size of our moon is if you were standing on Titan. Since the diameter of Mars is only about 2x that of the Moon, 6794KM v 3476KM and the distance to the moon is 864,000 while the distance to Mars is 34,580,000 (40 times) further away, my math tells me that there is NO way that email could be correct. By the way I have a bridge for sale, are you interested?
08/23/2005 12:13:23 PM · #9
Originally posted by gwphoto:

sounds like someone doesn't understand distance and size. The only way Mars will look the size of our moon is if you were standing on Titan. Since the diameter of Mars is only about 2x that of the Moon, 6794KM v 3476KM and the distance to the moon is 864,000 while the distance to Mars is 34,580,000 (40 times) further away, my math tells me that there is NO way that email could be correct. By the way I have a bridge for sale, are you interested?


Hey hey hey, no need to get that serious man! Ppl tend to take the internet too seriously, I myself do that sometimes!
But who in the world will start doing the math on every single email they recieve!? It's just the "WoW" factor of the message, "that's so kwel, I'll be able to touch mars with my bare hands".
I doubt that you wouldn't run outside to look to the dark sky, if you've recieved this very same email at the night of august 27th! Been a math geek or not..... :-D
08/23/2005 12:19:25 PM · #10
Originally posted by gwphoto:

... The only way Mars will look the size of our moon is if you were standing on Titan.

I don't think that will do it -- Titan (in orbit around Saturn) is considerably farther from Mars than the Earth is.
08/23/2005 12:28:42 PM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by gwphoto:

... The only way Mars will look the size of our moon is if you were standing on Titan.

I don't think that will do it -- Titan (in orbit around Saturn) is considerably farther from Mars than the Earth is.


Yeah, gwphoto (he says hiding behind GeneralE)...do the math!

Anyway, like I said I know very little about astronomy and fell for it. Big deal, I'm a little wiser now. No need for me to save face.
08/23/2005 12:29:34 PM · #12
For Mars to have thesame apparent size as the full moon here on earth, you'd need to be about 1.2million miles from it. Considering that at its closest point to the Earth, Mars is over 30 million miles from Earth, it's just not gonna happen, at least not by viewing it from Earth.
08/23/2005 12:49:08 PM · #13
Originally posted by gwphoto:

sounds like someone doesn't understand distance and size. The only way Mars will look the size of our moon is if you were standing on Titan.


Perhaps you mean Phobos or Deimos, Mars' moons?


08/23/2005 12:50:34 PM · #14
It's funny, you never know whether someone is smart or has just googled something...the beauty of internet dialogue.

Except GeneralE, that guy is an encyclopedia!
08/23/2005 01:57:18 PM · #15
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

It's funny, you never know whether someone is smart or has just googled something...the beauty of internet dialogue.

Except GeneralE, that guy is an encyclopedia!


mike dont feel bad about it (im sure you dont) be we all fall for these. I have been into astronomy for 3 years now, I did the whole mars viewing 2 years ago. Well this year I get an email on my astronomy club email list.

It said the Star Sirius was going super nova (exploding) and it was getting real bright right then. Well I got ALL excited, ran and got my binoculars and came back to the PC to check something to only see a few responses to the email saying "nice joke". I dod happen to forget it was April 1st.

SO I got all excited about nothing..... I felt like a dumbass for fallingf or it.

James
08/23/2005 01:58:51 PM · #16
Anyone that ever took a high school general science class would know better than to believe this internet circulated crap, presuming of course, they paid attention in class!
Brings up an interesting point though, todays adult population has a much better exposure to education than any generations past. But exposure to education does not necessarily mean educated.
08/23/2005 02:11:21 PM · #17
Originally posted by jab119:

It said the Star Sirius was going super nova (exploding) and it was getting real bright right then. Well I got ALL excited, ran and got my binoculars and came back to the PC to check something to only see a few responses to the email saying "nice joke". I dod happen to forget it was April 1st.

SO I got all excited about nothing..... I felt like a dumbass for fallingf or it.

James

You should have known they weren't being Sirius ... : )
08/23/2005 02:17:44 PM · #18
Originally posted by scuds:

But who in the world will start doing the math on every single email they recieve!?


I wish more people would. Not do math specifically, but take a minute to check out the validity of the content they read either in email or online. At this point, I'm no longer surprised but it is definitely unfortunate the number of people who immediately forward a message to their 300 closest friends without bothering to verify whether or not it's true.
08/23/2005 02:21:06 PM · #19
Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by scuds:

But who in the world will start doing the math on every single email they recieve!?


I wish more people would. Not do math specifically, but take a minute to check out the validity of the content they read either in email or online. At this point, I'm no longer surprised but it is definitely unfortunate the number of people who immediately forward a message to their 300 closest friends without bothering to verify whether or not it's true.

//www.snopes.com: Urban Legends and scams reference pages.
08/23/2005 02:22:02 PM · #20
gwphoto: which one, i'll make you the first offer ;-)

08/23/2005 02:38:50 PM · #21
I seriously never believe this stuff, never ever ever!

The only reason I believed this one was because when I got the email I was sure I had heard something like it on the news before then. Now that I've shifted my brain into gear it's clear that Mars couldn't be seen any brighter than a speck of light with my nekkid eyes...

It was an honest goof and has nothing to do with being uneducated or naive...I was simply ignorant about the location and size of the planet Mars (and I still am).

There are so many more important things in this world that most people aren't aware of...you've probably already heard me complaining about that brand of ignorance, though.

So I plead guilty. But it's likely that most of you have fallen for a similar tale, admit it! Like all of those lawsuit stories going around...

Message edited by author 2005-08-23 14:39:26.
08/23/2005 02:47:25 PM · #22
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:


So I plead guilty. But it's likely that most of you have fallen for a similar tale, admit it! Like all of those lawsuit stories going around...


Some lawsuits are indeed products of an alternate universe. I read some judgements and all I can think is "WTF was going through the jury's mind?"
08/23/2005 02:57:33 PM · #23
I fell for it, I'm no einstein, I didn't pay attention to science classes.

I feel hard to believe in these stories just like Mike, but hey, ppl also believe in the whole area 51 stuff, and swear by it! Nowadays everything can happen!

That's why my first post states "not sure if it's true". But then again, no1 would even believe that a plane could hit the WTC, and it did happen!

The universe is going crazy ladies and gents! Don't even bother running for ur lives, it won't help, profecies are been fullfiled (new pope, wars...) LoL.

OK OK, i'll tell the truth, the email stated that if I didn't show it to at least 50 ppl, I would die a very painfull death, caused by an attack of thousands of fleash-eating-mutant-ninja grasshoppers!
hahahaha
08/23/2005 02:59:00 PM · #24
Originally posted by ElGordo:

Anyone that ever took a high school general science class would know better than to believe this internet circulated crap, presuming of course, they paid attention in class!
Brings up an interesting point though, todays adult population has a much better exposure to education than any generations past. But exposure to education does not necessarily mean educated.


ElGordo, I am not trying to go against your comment here (which it is true) but being taught basic sciences in school varies from school district to school district and school to school.

When I entered the 8th grade we had a very good science teacher and started going over some basic stuff we should have known from the previous year. Well every student in the class did not under stand what he was talking about. He was amazed that our 7th grade science teacher didnt do a lot of what they were supposed to. The only experiment we did in 7th grade science was to make a volcano out of baking powder and vinegar. We were taught very basic stuff, 9 planets that go around the sun, and that we are in the Milky Galaxy. We did not even get into distances and such other than the distance ofthe earths circumfrance and the distance to the moon. A very brief explanation on the phases of the moon and tidal affects.
This Science teacher came from a different school district which was rated much much higher than the school district I was in.

In my high school they did not offer science, only biology and chemistry

Most of what I have learned aobut science is through reading and doing my own research.

James
08/23/2005 03:04:56 PM · #25
My Earth Sciences teacher in high school took a Geology course my dad taught in University & failed miserably. I aced his class, but also aced the State-wide Regents exam, so he prepared us well for that. (I grew up in the states before I saw the light & moved to Canada.)
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