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10/26/2002 01:14:57 PM · #1
I tried to get this posted in the regular How To sction, but either I don't know how to or it just takes a long time. I know lots of people have been curious about how I created this shot so I will explain it here. I'm sorry for the delay. I wanted to link some photos here as well but I can't seem to get through to PBase.com for some reason. I'll try linking some photos later.

It seams that I'm unable to create a link in an edit so I can only show you this link to PBase and you will have to go there yourself and see the photos. Sorry. The link is

//www.pbase.com/timj351/garbage


The idea for this challenge finally hit me, as usual, a few hours before the deadline so I had to work pretty quickly. The concept garbage in garbage out is pretty self explanatory. If you have a bad image or source to begin with your output will be bad also. I started by going through my garbage and laying it out on a black garbage bag on my bedroom floor. I had good sunlight coming through the window from the right so my lighting was taken care of. I used my tripod and took several shots, rearranging some of the garbage as I went. I uploaded the photos and opened the best one in Photoshop.

Photoshop 7.0 has a great filter called Liquify that I used to sqeeze and stretch the garbage. My intention was to enlarge the image to life size but it was quicker to apply the Liquify filter before enlarging the image because the filter is very memory intensive. I enlarged the image to life size and applied some sharpening using the Unsharp Mask then printed it out in 8x10 in. sections which were then cropped and taped together.

This is were I used the 640x480 pixel size to my advantage so that the taped seems would hardly be visible in the final image. I cut out the excess paper so only the shape of the garbage remained then I inserted the stretched end into my printer as shown and placed everything on a dark blanket to match the dark background in the original garbage photo. Unfortunately the sun had now gone down so I had to set up in my dining room and use the ceiling light from the kitchen which seemed adequate. When everything was ready I used my tripod and took several photos. I needed to adjust the Levels slightly but what you see is very close to how the image came out of the camera. Many people thought that I had added real garbage to my final scene but I did not. All of the garbage is just a thin piece of paper.

This is a completely legal photograph. The illusion of garbage coming out of the printer could only have been achieved through photography because seeing this settup live or any other way would instantly give away the secret.

T



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10/26/2002 01:18:09 PM · #2
Excellent, I've been wondering how you did this for ages! Thanks for the explanation.
10/26/2002 01:22:13 PM · #3
I've been waiting for this explanation.. I must admit it had me scratching my head over its legality but the admin note finally secured your ten from me.. Fantastic shot...
10/26/2002 01:31:45 PM · #4
After I posted the thread I realized when I went to edit it and include the photos that I could know longer link them. Weird. So I've included the link here

T
10/26/2002 01:31:54 PM · #5
Ah!! What a great idea. Very creative, and well executed.

Jim
10/26/2002 02:41:44 PM · #6
Thank you Tim. You are incredibly creative and resourceful. I can't wait to see your illusion submission. No pressure :)

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10/26/2002 05:13:33 PM · #7
Copied from Rules:
Image Modifications
Post-shot Adjustments may be made to your image in a photo editing program, so long as the modification is applied to the whole image. This includes levels, b&w conversion, hue/saturation, sizing/rotating, cropping etc. However, no filters (or non-Photoshop equivalent) maybe be applied to your image with the exception of sharpen and despeckle, the two of which are allowed. Absolutely no spot-editing is allowed; the use of any type of selection tool is prohibited.

I really like what you have created here but I do not see how it could possibly be within the RULES. I am appauled by some of the comments you recieved by some of the "respected" members. This photo should be disqualified.

10/26/2002 05:29:52 PM · #8
David the final picture did not break any rules. Photographing a manipulated image is perfictly ok. The only post ed. on his entry was levels adjustment which is alowed.

It's brilliant and I wish I could be so clever. I'll have to drop out of next weeks challenge. 8(
10/26/2002 05:31:52 PM · #9
David Ey:

[snipped: Rules extract on Image Modifications]:
>I really like what you have created here but I do
> not see how it could possibly be within the RULES.
> I am appauled by some of the comments you recieved
> by some of the "respected" members. This photo should
> be disqualified.

David, Tim used his intensive image manipulation on a DIFFERENT photo (of some garbage) and then used his prints of that photo as ONE ELEMENT in his eventual image (of course, had his eventual image just consisted of a photo of his original image without the rest of the setup (printer, 3D-setup, etc.) then it would have been invalid under the "Artwork" section of the rules).

This is entirely within both the letter and the spirit of the rules. It is also following a long line of precedenton dpchallenge among those with the talent to carry it off successfully. See this image by Corey in the "Corporate World" challenge, for example. Or this one from marcvg in the "7 Deadly Sins" challenge. Unless, of course, Marc just happened to find a pile of those books in his local bookstore...
10/26/2002 06:09:42 PM · #10
My Apologies to all. Good work Tim.
10/26/2002 06:24:09 PM · #11
No problem David. I may not have explained the concept real well. What I want to emphasize with images like this is that they do not work at all unless they are photographed. If you were to see my set up in person you would instantly see how I faked it.

T
10/26/2002 07:41:35 PM · #12
Thank you very much Tim. Incredibly innovative and very well done. You should have won.
10/26/2002 09:25:12 PM · #13


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