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05/22/2003 12:22:50 PM · #1
My dear friend kosmikkreeper urged me, when he saw the Matrix Challenge, to do a shoot for this. Unfortunately, I didn't make it in time. I actually did the shoot Wednesday the 21st and the deadline for the challenge was Tuesday the 20th. :-( I tried to meet the challenge's deadline, but my schedule simply didn't work out. Arrrrrr, why, oh why did the challenge deadlines change from Sunday to Tuesday? ;-)

Anyway, here are three photos from the shoot. The last one of the three would probably have been the one I would have submitted.

photos: //www.martinperreault.com/img/tmp/matrix_triptych.jpg

DrJOnes

Message edited by author 2003-05-22 12:24:05.
05/22/2003 12:27:55 PM · #2
Whoa!!! Those are good. Good job. That would've definitely received very highmarks.
05/22/2003 12:28:44 PM · #3
10 from me for sure, nicely done. :)
05/22/2003 12:29:20 PM · #4
Fine work - though I think the 'fashion' approach is a little, er, 'straight', if you know what I mean. Not that it isn't a valid one, and even an interesting comment on the phenomenon.

For me, all those shots are a little too catwalk to do well. Too much about pose and not enough about style, if that makes sense. The stylishness of the matrix seems to me to come without so much apparent effort.

Ed
05/22/2003 12:32:27 PM · #5
I love them. Where on earth did you get a suit like that?
05/22/2003 01:57:46 PM · #6
Originally posted by e301:

The stylishness of the matrix seems to me to come without so much apparent effort.
Ed


I hear you Ed. But I don't totally agree. It may not be hard work in the creativity process when you immitate a concept that has already been tought up, that is true. But to be able to recreate it in the same way takes a lot of work.

For instance, for the creation of the photos you see here, it took a full day to create. I had a makeup artist/hair stylist present at the shoot. She brought her expertise to adapt and recreate a makeup that would fit with the current Matrix style. The clothes: these things don't come easy. I personally made the coat (I have some experience in making latex clothes). The pants and tank top, we got at Polymorphe.com , a latex fashion designer. We scouted for the boots at many shops before finding something appropriate.
To recreate the lighting, it took time and effort- to study the current official Matrix posters and to recreate their lighting as best as possible. That takes in itself more effort than one would think. And finally, the model- which in this case was perfect for this shoot- has to do a very good job.

Of course, it's not like creating something from scratch. But then again, sometimes when we do create things from scratch, we come up with amazing photos out of mistakes and errors, often without having worked really hard at them. I find that recreating something can be a real pain sometime and necessitates a lot of effort to achieve it well.

Just my two cents.

DrJOnes
05/22/2003 01:58:51 PM · #7
9 from me. I think they are _very_ good as is all your work.
05/22/2003 02:04:12 PM · #8
nice but more lara croft than matrix to me.
05/22/2003 02:16:48 PM · #9
Oh I appreciate the work, I assure you: I've just been trying to re-create a kertesz still life (boy was he good).

My comment was about the final images really - the have a quality of 'pose' where the matrix images that I've seen ave a quality of 'in the middle of something else and just happening to look ridiculously cool'

:-)

Ed
05/22/2003 03:26:49 PM · #10
question -- sounds like you put a lot of time, effort and resources into doing a shot for a free contest (dpc), that you could not even enter. :)

how do you manage to sink so much into this without any recompense? love of the hobby? :)
05/22/2003 03:36:42 PM · #11
Originally posted by lionelm:

nice but more lara croft than matrix to me.


My thoughts exactly. But I still think they are great pictures and I probably would've given it a 9 or 10.
05/22/2003 04:30:39 PM · #12


I can't get the link to work, and i have been to the homepage but I don't want to trail through the stuff on that site

hope this wasn't a shameless plug for your site? :)
05/22/2003 04:46:21 PM · #13

i have viewed the pictures now via your profile,(probably didn't do it properly cos I am watching Angel, they are good.
05/22/2003 04:49:46 PM · #14
Originally posted by aurora:

I can't get the link to work, and i have been to the homepage but I don't want to trail through the stuff on that site

hope this wasn't a shameless plug for your site? :)


Are you copy and pasting the word "photos" in that link too. I did that the first time I tried and didn't get it to work.
05/22/2003 04:55:09 PM · #15

i think thats what i did, but its OK I got it to work now
05/22/2003 05:46:59 PM · #16
To me, they look like they could be ad shots for the movie commissioned by the production company (except that the girl's smiling). :->
05/22/2003 06:46:44 PM · #17
I also got a laura croft vibe from them, but I think that's mostly because the model looks more like laura than carrie anne moss. But anyway... the first two shots seems a little bit of an awkward fit for the matrix style. Specifically, the way the model has her hips pushed out to the side in the first shot seems very unlike the style of trinity.. the second shot again has more of the feel of a runway model than of trinity... The third shot is wonderful though. It seems spot on stylistically when compared to the movie.. perhaps a little overly playful, but I like that touch to it anyway.. so good work, youy clearly put a lot of effort into that.
05/22/2003 08:32:55 PM · #18
I think these are excellent and would give nothing less than an 11 on any of the three.
05/22/2003 08:43:09 PM · #19
Very nice! Good work!
05/22/2003 08:58:55 PM · #20
(jaw drops to the ground)

Good work Martin. Very classy stuff. I love your work.


05/22/2003 10:10:29 PM · #21
I would give it a 10 instead of a 9 if it includes a flower pic LOL
(hey, that was sarcasm, dont flame me)
05/22/2003 10:22:14 PM · #22
Originally posted by magnetic9999:

question -- sounds like you put a lot of time, effort and resources into doing a shot for a free contest (dpc), that you could not even enter. :)

how do you manage to sink so much into this without any recompense? love of the hobby? :)


Good question!
The answer is quite simple. My main work is latex photography with this beautiful model. We shoot together all the time. I have my studio and all. And the latex costumes have accumulated over the years (we've been doing that for 6 years now). Obviously, hadn't we have the ressources in the first place, I wouldn't have had the time and money to got through all that work just for the challenge- that I missed anyway.
In truth, my intentions were REALLY to submit it to the challenge and it was my first motivation to do the shoot. But since this was going to require a lot of ressources, I wasn't going to do it just for DPC. At one point i knew I'd miss the challenge anyway. It's ok, I had other plans for the photos already- challenge or not.

In all honesty, I didn't post here to plug my site.
I just wanted to share the photos beause of the DPC theme.

DrJOnes

Message edited by author 2003-05-22 22:29:20.
05/22/2003 10:25:24 PM · #23
Originally posted by wingy:

I also got a laura croft vibe from them, but I think that's mostly because the model looks more like laura than carrie anne moss. But anyway... the first two shots seems a little bit of an awkward fit for the matrix style. Specifically, the way the model has her hips pushed out to the side in the first shot seems very unlike the style of trinity.. the second shot again has more of the feel of a runway model than of trinity... The third shot is wonderful though. It seems spot on stylistically when compared to the movie.. perhaps a little overly playful, but I like that touch to it anyway.. so good work, youy clearly put a lot of effort into that.




Thanks all for the great comments.

About the Lara vibe, I totally understand it. I think the comparison was innevitable because of the model's casting which is indeed more Lara Croft than Carie-Ane Moss. But our intention was not to immitate Trinity directly, but more to kind of create a new character that would have been in Reloaded. I guess we could say it's a crossover between Tombraider and Matrix !!! LOL.

DrJones
- Martin
05/22/2003 10:59:03 PM · #24
EXACTLY! I like the photography, but this does not answer the posed question. It actually captures a part of the movie I like the least.

But this is execellent photography and portraiture. In a fashion photography challenge I would have given this high marks.

The chest, the glasses definitely lean toward laura.

Originally posted by lionelm:

nice but more lara croft than matrix to me.


Message edited by author 2003-05-22 23:03:14.
05/22/2003 11:03:15 PM · #25
Nice work Martin. I really like your stuff. The skin tone in this new one I think really sets it off. Though I'd still say my favorite is "Collection Item #12" :)

matt
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