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05/21/2003 06:17:05 AM · #1
I really like this site a lot, but one thing that I really hate is the fact that you can say whatever you like in comments to an entry or a forum topic, and then go back and completely change what you said or just delete it. This completely releases everyone from taking responsibility for what they say. Say whatever you like; you can come back later and change it to make everyone who commented after you look really stupid or asinine.

I had an experience where an individual made a huge, rambling, incredibly wacked-out statement about nothing important in general in a forum entry. I responded accordingly, quoting his entry, but found the next day that his entry was gone along with the quote of it in my entry. This totally invalidated my response along with numerous other responses, making us all look like we were making things up. And I recently saw a comment in an photo entry that apologized for a previous comment, but the previous comment is now blank.

Photo comments and forum comments are no different than a real-life conversation. Think about what you say before you hit the Post button. And just like real-life conversations, you should not be able to change what you said before. If you regret what you said previously, then post a reclarification or a change in position, don't change your previous comments.

The admins could make this happen by prohibiting the editing of previous comments. What does everyone think about this?

05/21/2003 08:13:36 AM · #2
There is an old saying on the net: "You own your own words." This means that one is totally responsible for what one says/writes. It also means that one can scribble (i.e. delete) one's comments if desired because they are one's own property.

This has been an issue in all the great web-based communities so far. It is an issue that in nearly all cases has been settled in favour of ownership because -- even thogh it allows scribbling -- the quality of responsibility associated with ownership has more pros than cons.
05/22/2003 06:00:33 AM · #3
Originally posted by Jak:

There is an old saying on the net: "You own your own words." This means that one is totally responsible for what one says/writes. It also means that one can scribble (i.e. delete) one's comments if desired because they are one's own property.


Depending on the site, whatever you do there becomes the property of the site owners. I don't know about DPC.

Originally posted by Jak:

This has been an issue in all the great web-based communities so far. It is an issue that in nearly all cases has been settled in favour of ownership because -- even thogh it allows scribbling -- the quality of responsibility associated with ownership has more pros than cons.


I honestly do not understand what you mean here.

I like to look at a forum thread as a verbal conversation. Once you verbalize something it can never be undone, except through further verbalization. I just can't understand why typed conversations are any different.

Why can you go back and change what you said? It completely invalidates the whole conversation.

In other words, web forums are all potentially complete BS. In a chat room you can't go back; why are forums and photo comments different?
05/22/2003 08:15:09 AM · #4
So...why not just go and delete your stuff and then you can checkmate the otherside of the debate too.

Alternately, if you had replied to the offending person's comments when you first saw them posted, then would you not have captured their words and placed them inside your post response. This would prevent them from deleting them from your reply, right? Just a thought...
05/22/2003 03:37:01 PM · #5
it's not black and white. some forums i.e. dpreview dont allow you to edit your words once committed.

others have a 2 hour or other time period expiry before you can no longer edit.

others, like this one, allow editing ad infinitum.
05/23/2003 12:48:11 AM · #6
Originally posted by Morgan:

...then would you not have captured their words and placed them inside your post response. This would prevent them from deleting them from your reply, right?


One of my original complaints was that I did exactly what you are talking about here, but the person's quote was deleted out of my post by an admin.

This reminds me of something straight out of Orwell's "1984."
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