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08/02/2005 05:17:24 PM · #1 |
Just an FYI if your from France.
I live in Toronto and my Brother in Law is an Air Traffic Controler at Pearson airport. He called the tower and found out everyone escaped before it blew up. I don't know why the News media does'nt know this yet but just an FYI.
But then again this is a good source but it is still second hand. |
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08/02/2005 05:21:04 PM · #2 |
The BBC have it.
//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4740381.stm
ps. This is in totally the wrong forum.
Message edited by author 2005-08-02 17:21:30. |
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08/02/2005 05:33:52 PM · #3 |
ooops sorry I thought I posted it in General Disscussion.
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08/02/2005 05:38:12 PM · #4 |
I think this would be really difficult to set up.... :) Good to hear everyone got out ok, at least out of the tower.
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08/02/2005 05:52:51 PM · #5 |
News in UK is reporting some survived but scores of others trapped in burning plane.
I hope your brothers info is the correct info. |
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08/02/2005 05:58:10 PM · #6 |
Yahoo! Story
So you can read more about it...
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08/02/2005 06:06:13 PM · #7 |
| Global news is reoprting 14 minor injuries unconfirmed at this time |
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08/02/2005 06:08:37 PM · #8 |
| Reuters says everyone is alive. I am glad. |
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08/02/2005 06:12:34 PM · #9 |
| No known deaths either. Thank you GOD! |
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08/02/2005 06:12:59 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by xion:
Reuters says everyone is alive. I am glad. |
me too.
people taken to hospital, one young child semi-conscious taken to sick kids hospital.
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08/02/2005 06:15:18 PM · #11 |
| Lightning is the cause, probably a microburst. |
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08/02/2005 06:20:03 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by ph223048:
Lightning is the cause, probably a microburst. |
which one?
lightning or the microburst? |
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08/02/2005 06:22:27 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by ph223048:
Lightning is the cause, probably a microburst. |
Why do you say that? My impression was that the plane skidded off the end of the runway due to a sudden and heavy rain leaving it's ability to brake sub-par.
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08/02/2005 06:22:44 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by ph223048:
Lightning is the cause, probably a microburst. |
where'd you hear that?
they're saying the problem occured upon landing.
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08/02/2005 06:33:09 PM · #15 |
According to what i'm listening to the power went out on the jet as they were landing...
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08/02/2005 07:30:52 PM · #16 |
wasn't that cool. I was watchng it from the balcony.
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08/02/2005 07:38:47 PM · #17 |
| I've read of similar accidents, these were caused by pilot error where they had neglected to engage reverse thrust. |
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08/02/2005 07:42:05 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by ph223048:
Lightning is the cause, probably a micro burst. |
I don't see how it could of been a micoburst. microburst is a fast straight line wind coming down from a large thunder storm (usually a super-cell) that pushes an aircraft toward the ground.
In the article an eye witness says the landing seemed to be normal. To me discounting a microburst. If a aircraft is caught in a microburst and it causes a crash it usually pushes the aircraft to the ground before reaching the runway.
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08/02/2005 07:48:09 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by aled:
I've read of similar accidents, these were caused by pilot error where they had neglected to engage reverse thrust. |
The electrical storm could of cause a failure in the electrical system that controls the breaks and possibly the reverse thruster blades to deploy.
The Airbus A-340 is a fly-by-wire aircraft using redundant systems. So when the pilot activates the brakes and reverse thrusters they are not done hydraulically but by computer input. So it is very feasible that lighting could of been a cause.
The same eye witness in the article recalled hearing the engines reverse.
Message edited by author 2005-08-02 19:48:57.
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08/02/2005 09:09:04 PM · #20 |
The weather was severe enough that the airport was closed. Weather was probably the main factor.
Planes getting struck by ligtening is very common and usually harmless, but getting struck while on the ground in the process of landing could be bad.
Landing speed on a plane like this is 180 knots. If the thrusters and brakes were out I doubt everyone on board would have survived if it skidded off the runway without being able to slow down.
It's great that all survived, it'll be interesting to hear the cause.
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08/05/2005 10:29:57 PM · #21 |
| loudog looks like we're both engineers, hands across the ocean my friend. |
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08/05/2005 10:33:39 PM · #22 |
A guy at another forum I posted at took the pictures on the CNN website and others. He made about $3000 on the day... and there will be more than twice that coming from magazines.
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