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Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

05/17/2003 11:35:17 AM · #1

The other day, I asked for comments on

The Farm on the Hill

thanks to those who commented. This was a version of the shot with some electricity poles cloned out, since I had some comments on photoSIG that I should do this. I wasn't sure, though, since I thought the poles added a sense of depth. So, do you prefer the version above (sans poles) or this one, with poles?

The Farm on the Hill II

Thanks in advance

Sonifo

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

05/17/2003 11:51:11 AM · #2

I like the one without the poles. Very pretty shot. I love the colors. How did you get the sky so dark yet the grass and flowers so light. Awesome!!

Sonifo

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

05/17/2003 11:52:56 AM · #3

duh all I had to do was read. "Oilseed Rape" What an unusual name.

RLS

05/17/2003 12:15:57 PM · #4

Originally posted by pinback:

No telephone poles looks best.

Bob

05/17/2003 12:38:50 PM · #5

Originally posted by Sonifo:

duh all I had to do was read. "Oilseed Rape" What an unusual name.

It is, isn't it? I don't know why it's called that (the 'rape' bit not the 'oilseed' bit). In case anybody's remotely interested, here's some information about it.

We have a lot of it grown over here - whole fields of bright yellow flowers. Actually, it's a pain - we get some growing every time we dig a part of the garden, I think the seeds lie dormant in the soil until uncovered.

Message edited by author 2003-05-17 12:39:38.

Incarlight

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

05/17/2003 01:22:08 PM · #6

If it's the same flower I'm thinking of (99% sure), it's called "raps" in swedish. So the name might be somewhat old and somewhat international.

05/17/2003 01:27:52 PM · #7

Originally posted by Incarlight:

If it's the same flower I'm thinking of (99% sure), it's called "raps" in swedish. So the name might be somewhat old and somewhat international.

Interesting. Does "raps" mean anything or is it just a name?

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

05/17/2003 03:10:58 PM · #8

Raps (Brassica napus) - Used traditionally as animal feed. Until beginning of this century raps cakes were baked for human consumption.

During recent decades raps has become the major crop in European countries, particularly Germany. Raps oil is used mainly for (small) engine oil today, i.e. in chain saws, mowers etc.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

05/17/2003 03:16:33 PM · #9

I'm not all sure, but the name 'rape' or 'raps' may derive from Lat. 'rapere', meaning 'to tear out or - off', also 'run away (sprawl)'.

Just speculating...

carsten

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/17/2003 03:44:44 PM · #10

Yes you can see these fields everywhere in Sweden.
And I like the one without poles best.

Message edited by author 2003-05-17 17:06:37.

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

05/17/2003 05:01:50 PM · #11

Plenty of "rape" in the fields around our town :-)

05/17/2003 07:21:13 PM · #12

Originally posted by zeuszen:

I'm not all sure, but the name 'rape' or 'raps' may derive from Lat. 'rapere', meaning 'to tear out or - off', also 'run away (sprawl)'.

Just speculating...

Maybe that's it - it certainly spreads and keeps comin up year after year once it's seeded.

05/17/2003 07:22:31 PM · #13

Originally posted by zeuszen:

That's interesting - I've seen it on sale as a cooking oil but didn't know it was used for engines or as a lubricant. Makes sense - it seems to be able to get hotter than other cooking oils before it starts to smoke.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/17/2003 08:12:01 PM · #14

Love your shot of it, BTW. Colours, particularly the light, are transporting!

Mais 'sans poles', s.v.p. It's more timeless this way, IMO.

I respect your work.

lumbus

Canon PowerShot S50

05/18/2003 06:37:26 AM · #15

Rapsolja / raps oil is one of the most used oils for cooking in Sweden. It is also used as a replacement for diesel fuel in engines! You can get a standard Volkswagen TDI (diesel) car and drive it on raps oil. Saves fossile fuels and the enviroment.

cykhansen

Canon PowerShot G1

05/18/2003 09:16:19 AM · #16

Normally, I'm against removing utility lines, etc. as it identifies what the area really looks like (show everything in space/time). However, in this photo it seems better to remove them as there is very little detail in them anyway.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

05/18/2003 10:20:20 AM · #17

Originally posted by pinback:

Originally posted by Sonifo:
duh all I had to do was read. "Oilseed Rape" What an unusual name.

It is, isn't it? I don't know why it's called that (the 'rape' bit not the 'oilseed' bit). In case anybody's remotely interested, here's some information about it.

As a PR move, the oil was re-named "canola" oil, at least in the West. "Rapeseed oil" was not very marketable in the non-agricultural millieu... From the Canola Council of Canada:

What is Canola?

Canola (Ca no'la)�the seed of the species Brassica napus or Brassica campestris, the oil component of which seed contains less than two per cent erucic acid and the solid component of which seed contains less than 30 micromoles of any one or any mixture of 3-butenyl glucosinolate, 4-pentenyl glucosinolate, 2-hydroxy-3-butenyl glucosinolate, and 2-hydroxy-4-pentenyl glucosinolate per gram of air dry, oil free solid as measured by the gas liquid chromatograph method of the Canadian Grain Commission.

Canola's botanical origin is rooted in rapeseed, however, the deliberate breeding programs carried out in university and federal government research laboratories created the genetically altered �double low� cultivars which established Canadian canola. Canadian cultivars are low in both erucic acid and glucosinolates, and the minimum requirements for canola are an oil which is less than two per cent erucic acid, and a meal which contains no more than 30 micromoles of glucosinolates per gram of air dry, oil free meal.

autool

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM

05/18/2003 10:20:58 AM · #18

The original shot is a wonderful shot, but the absence of poles adds an additional feeling of serenity to the picture. Great work!
I avoid telephone poles 99% of the time, I think they are quite obnoxious.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/18/2003 10:24:13 AM · #19

I "like" the one without poles better. But as to whether one is a "better" photo depends on if your purpose is documentary or artistic.

05/18/2003 03:02:47 PM · #20

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by pinback:
Originally posted by Sonifo:
duh all I had to do was read. "Oilseed Rape" What an unusual name.

It is, isn't it? I don't know why it's called that (the 'rape' bit not the 'oilseed' bit). In case anybody's remotely interested, here's some information about it.

As a PR move, the oil was re-named "canola" oil, at least in the West. "Rapeseed oil" was not very marketable in the non-agricultural millieu... From the Canola Council of Canada:

What is Canola?

Canola (Ca no'la)�the seed of the species Brassica napus or Brassica campestris, the oil component of which seed contains less than two per cent erucic acid and the solid component of which seed contains less than 30 micromoles of any one or any mixture of 3-butenyl glucosinolate, 4-pentenyl glucosinolate, 2-hydroxy-3-butenyl glucosinolate, and 2-hydroxy-4-pentenyl glucosinolate per gram of air dry, oil free solid as measured by the gas liquid chromatograph method of the Canadian Grain Commission.

Canola's botanical origin is rooted in rapeseed, however, the deliberate breeding programs carried out in university and federal government research laboratories created the genetically altered �double low� cultivars which established Canadian canola. Canadian cultivars are low in both erucic acid and glucosinolates, and the minimum requirements for canola are an oil which is less than two per cent erucic acid, and a meal which contains no more than 30 micromoles of glucosinolates per gram of air dry, oil free meal.

Ah. I'd always wondered what canola oil was - now I know. Thanks. Seems to be a pretty universal crop, then.

05/18/2003 03:04:39 PM · #21

Thanks to all for the comments. Seems like it's more or less unanimous that the shot without poles is preferable.

Cheers

05/18/2003 03:05:17 PM · #22

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Love your shot of it, BTW. Colours, particularly the light, are transporting!

Mais 'sans poles', s.v.p. It's more timeless this way, IMO.

I respect your work.

Thanks for the kind words - I appreciate it.

05/18/2003 03:06:09 PM · #23

Originally posted by cykhansen:

Thanks. I love your sig - what a great quote. Haven't seen that one before.