DPChallenge: A Digital Photography Contest You are not logged in. (log in or register
 

DPChallenge Forums >> Current Challenge >> How to Critique this Challenge.
Pages:  
Showing posts 1 - 25 of 73, (reverse)
AuthorThread
10/14/2002 12:46:24 PM · #1
I think it is important this week to shelve your personal thoughts and feelings toward the subject matter when critiquing the photos. This topic just begs photos that asked you to agree or disagree with them based on intensely personal issues. I just ask that you don't tank (or exalt) photos solely based on this issue.

I think the better question to ask yourself when reviewing the photos is "Does this say something about the Sin it is representing?" and not "Do I agree with what this person is saying?" After that, take note of the technical qualities in the image and move on.

Those are my two cents - take it or leave it. (By the way, this post was inspired by a GOOD comment on my photo - not positive, but good - and not a couple of bad ones.


10/14/2002 12:57:08 PM · #2
Mark -- Good point, I agree.

I would also like to add that I hope people take a few moments to really review the photos as they are voting. I didn't want to use the name of the sin in my photo title. I have received at least one comment from someone who didn't notice that the subject of my photo isn't really the subject...

:-)
Alan
10/14/2002 01:18:33 PM · #3
While I went into this knowing that my photo may not "score" well, I am actually surprised at the comments I am getting. I have gotten 7 positive comments (listing high scores), all understanding the photo. I am however, still in the lower to average scoring range, but that's ok, my photo was understood as it stands, and I am very proud.
since there are a lot less photos this week, I'm going to take my time with the voting and commenting. I think that there are a lot of very nice photos in this challenge, and am looking forward to commenting.
~Heather~
10/14/2002 02:13:26 PM · #4
Getting a low score are we Mark? :)

I am right smack in the middle of 4's right now average. That's about 1 point less than the last challenge I submitted for reflection, and similarly for the "Corner" one, both of which takes me less time to make and less effort, less creativity :)

I think people are grading based on disturbing contents. But, i'll have to say i am very pleased to see a lot of good emotional images in this challenge. I want to thank everyone that isn't afraid to take a risk by submitting a dark subject.

Yeah, some people also didn't get it from my title, but i don't want to make it obvious. You sort of have to think about what I am trying to say in that image and the title gives you hints.

I got a good praise too :) that brightens up the day and possibly kept my submission from going into the 3 zone :P

I dunno, if people wrote "i gave you a 2 because it disturbed me", i'd be VERY happy indeed. It's ok if people wants to rate based on flowers and teddy bear scales, but i'd rather see something different.

There is also another image that would probably get a low score due to the political content, i voted it high even though i didn't agree with the message but the photo was a very good image as far as the visual impact.
10/14/2002 02:14:22 PM · #5
I expected some comments on the subject of my shot and even expected the score to suffer some for ppl with differing views. I really didn't expect ppl to think it isn't a real pic tho.
Whoever left me the comment saying they'd revise my score if they knew it wasn't a shot of the tv didn't even leave a name. *sigh*
I'm also not sure the photo has to say something ABOUT the sin. The topic was sin so I think it is enough just to represent it. My shot is more of a symbol of the sin rather than actually showing the sin happening.
10/14/2002 05:41:29 PM · #6
Originally posted by paganini:
Getting a low score are we Mark? :)


Actually, no. Not as high as I would like (who is getting exactly what they wanted?). I just wanted to steer some people away from the "I don't agree." vein that I am sure many are getting comments.
10/14/2002 06:08:47 PM · #7
Originally posted by indigo997:
I expected some comments on the subject of my shot and even expected the score to suffer some for ppl with differing views. I really didn't expect ppl to think it isn't a real pic tho.
Whoever left me the comment saying they'd revise my score if they knew it wasn't a shot of the tv didn't even leave a name. *sigh*


Please do NOT vote down a photo you think violates the rules. Request a DQ if you think it's illegal, but VOTE as if it IS legal...
10/14/2002 07:21:02 PM · #8
This is true if the ratings on here are relevant, but for this challenge, the more disturbing the images, the lower the score.

So in that sense i am doing ok :) My score hit a perfect 4 last night, thought it was going to dip into the 3s but instead bounced back to the mid-4's. The comments I had either said I was an idiot for doing this and i odn't know what i am doing, or they seem to praise it.

I have yet to see:

VRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooooom 1 :-)


Originally posted by MarkRob:
Originally posted by paganini:
[i]Getting a low score are we Mark? :)


Actually, no. Not as high as I would like (who is getting exactly what they wanted?). I just wanted to steer some people away from the "I don't agree." vein that I am sure many are getting comments.
[/i]


10/14/2002 08:22:20 PM · #9
I have a couple of comments saying I was (I'm going to use a different word here) brave to submit my pic. I thought this was seven deadly sins, some people didn't seem to get that either and said I didn't meet the challenge. I quite obviously met the challenge and so far 11 comments have confirmed that. Being offended by my pic doesn't mean I didn't meet the challenge, imo quite the opposite!!!:)
10/14/2002 10:01:09 PM · #10
wow... I started hanging out around here hoping to learn something about the art of photography, and I am, but I also seem to be learning something about critiquing art... the only bad thing is that now I have to go vote all over again because some of my votes are changing after reading this message thread! thanks everyone :o)
10/14/2002 11:09:08 PM · #11
Something as well to think about is .. are we taking the current definition of the sin or the original one.
In the original definition, for example, pride was actually a sin in the sense that it 'interfers with your recognition of god' ...
Right now I guess we would consider as a sin only a excessive pride. Which then would have to depend on the culture of the persone.
This week .. I have been more than usually giving the benefit of the dougt about the sins, as long as the sin or it's evocation is in the picture, I consider it meeting the challenge.
10/14/2002 11:09:38 PM · #12
It's too bad you can't read the photographer's description before voting. The descriptions might let other people understand what the photographer was trying to convey in the image. Then again, a great picture is supposed to do that without words...

* This message has been edited by the author on 10/14/2002 11:20:25 PM.
10/15/2002 01:34:53 AM · #13
How's that for a comment I received: "You sick Fuck!". :-) That's one of the 13 comments I received so far for my photo. Mind you, I had very positive feedback as well. My average is just above 5... I don't mind though. I was prepared for it.

:-)

Martin
10/15/2002 02:07:06 AM · #14
Since everyone's making little references to their photos without explicitly giving them away here, I will too!

To those half a dozen or so people so far who have commented on this aspect of my photo: I DO NOT HAVE MASCULINE HANDS!
10/15/2002 02:23:32 AM · #15
heheheh. Must be the bondage photo? :) dunno but i guess that's why people are feeling bad. i thought all the disturbing photo is well done.

It is after all a theme about SIN. And it should be disturbing. If sins are happy then it woudn't be sin, would it? I'll bet a lot of people that are disturbed are the religious types and they should actually feel GOOD about it. Because it shows sin, and if you can show sin, it means you know what the opposite is. Otherwise, you wouldn't know the difference :)



Originally posted by DrJOnes:
How's that for a comment I received: "You sick Fuck!". :-) That's one of the 13 comments I received so far for my photo. Mind you, I had very positive feedback as well. My average is just above 5... I don't mind though. I was prepared for it.

:-)

Martin



10/15/2002 03:06:21 AM · #16
I'm getting lots of feedback on my shot this week, mostly in the form of: "I dont see how this relates to the challenge."

Well, I'll be more than happy to explain it when the challenge is over, but for now I would just like to say that there is more than one way to interpret this subject.

Seems many ppl are expecting to see nothing but shots of sin being committed or suggested, which is fine. (The billboard for this challenge should read: Now Playing at DPChallenge: "The Seven Deadlies in Action!" Get your tickets today! rated 'R' for brief nudity, violence, and adult content.) But what about the repercussions of sin? Is it not perfectly valid to portray the punishment for a sin, rather than just the sin itself?

I believe it is. I saw nothing in the guidlines for this challenge that caused me to think otherwise.



10/15/2002 03:06:25 AM · #17
Originally posted by paganini:
It is after all a theme about SIN. And it should be disturbing. If sins are happy then it woudn't be sin, would it?

I think the idea behind sin (in the Judeo-Christian scheme) is that one must forego something personally pleasant or advantageous in the material world to avoid something "disturbing" in the next. If sins were not "fun" or "happy" (at the time) then why would we be tempted to commit them?
10/15/2002 09:53:47 AM · #18
HAHA

There are so many 'repellent' and 'shocking' shots this week that I'm reaping the 'tame by comparison' votes ; )

i've already had 3 comments that say something along the line of 'hey this isn't revolting. I like it!'

lol

10/15/2002 09:54:47 AM · #19
hey folks.

we try not to reveal our picture during voting, no matter HOW TEMPTED we may be ..


Just a friendly word on site etiquette....
10/15/2002 10:53:39 AM · #20
I think I have way too many "hey I barfed" comments. I guess I just wasn't going for that. I'm even better than I thought:) hehe
10/15/2002 01:00:13 PM · #21
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
hey folks.

we try not to reveal our picture during voting, no matter HOW TEMPTED we may be ..

Just a friendly word on site etiquette....



woops.... my wrong.
Thanks for removing my post!

Martin


* This message has been edited by the author on 10/15/2002 12:59:03 PM.
10/15/2002 01:33:55 PM · #22
Originally posted by paganini:
heheheh. Must be the bondage photo? :) dunno but i guess that's why people are feeling bad. i thought all the disturbing photo is well done.

It is after all a theme about SIN. And it should be disturbing. If sins are happy then it woudn't be sin, would it? I'll bet a lot of people that are disturbed are the religious types and they should actually feel GOOD about it. Because it shows sin, and if you can show sin, it means you know what the opposite is. Otherwise, you wouldn't know the difference :)



Originally posted by DrJOnes:
[i]How's that for a comment I received: "You sick Fuck!". :-) That's one of the 13 comments I received so far for my photo. Mind you, I had very positive feedback as well. My average is just above 5... I don't mind though. I was prepared for it.

:-)

Martin



[/i]

Sorry, pag, as one of the "religious types" you have once again referred to, I must say, that you are wrong. Yes, there may be some people upset with the disturbing pictures, and yes, some of them may be "religious types," but I dare say some of disturbance is "felt" by "normal" people as well. I, for one, and several others I know, recognize that sin is not pretty (or the result of it), and can be disturbing. Like someone else said though, sin can be beautiful, 'cause if it wasn't, why do we (some of us) struggle with it!
And just so you know, my picture is not disturbing in the least, and many people do not like it either!


* This message has been edited by the author on 10/15/2002 1:32:55 PM.
10/15/2002 02:00:41 PM · #23
yeah, and water taste bland no matter how many i drink.

Originally posted by magnetic9999:
HAHA

There are so many 'repellent' and 'shocking' shots this week that I'm reaping the 'tame by comparison' votes ; )

i've already had 3 comments that say something along the line of 'hey this isn't revolting. I like it!'

lol




10/15/2002 04:19:18 PM · #24
Originally posted by DrJOnes:
How's that for a comment I received: "You sick Fuck!". :-) That's one of the 13 comments I received so far for my photo. Mind you, I had very positive feedback as well. My average is just above 5... I don't mind though. I was prepared for it.

:-)

Martin


I am having such a wonderful time reading these posts! lol Yes, Martin, before being allowed to vote, voters must take an exam on the aesthetics of art criticism and on literary English as well.
10/15/2002 05:14:52 PM · #25
what's your point?

or do you even have one?

Originally posted by paganini:
yeah, and water taste bland no matter how many i drink.

Originally posted by magnetic9999:
[i]HAHA

There are so many 'repellent' and 'shocking' shots this week that I'm reaping the 'tame by comparison' votes ; )

i've already had 3 comments that say something along the line of 'hey this isn't revolting. I like it!'

lol




[/i]

Pages:  
Current Server Time: 03/29/2024 04:33:21 AM

Please log in or register to post to the forums.


Home - Challenges - Community - League - Photos - Cameras - Lenses - Learn - Prints! - Help - Terms of Use - Privacy - Top ^
DPChallenge, and website content and design, Copyright © 2001-2024 Challenging Technologies, LLC.
All digital photo copyrights belong to the photographers and may not be used without permission.
Current Server Time: 03/29/2024 04:33:21 AM EDT.