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07/10/2005 12:57:46 PM · #1 |
DPC Mentorship – Rules of the Road
Group: Candid
Mentor: laurielblack
Students: lentil, BAMartin, LKMote, pixieland, di53, nico_blue, bvoi
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Message edited by author 2005-07-12 16:54:05. |
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07/10/2005 01:03:11 PM · #2 |
Howdy...I'll be getting with you guys shortly! Looking forward to this! :O)
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07/10/2005 03:42:09 PM · #3 |
OK guys and gals...let's get busy!
First I need to know what it is YOU guys want to accomplish in our little study group. I have to tell you that I am learning as we go, and the main reason I volunteered for candid is because I find myself drawn to candids myself. I do not profess to know or have one clue about textbook technique, but I have had the good fortune to be able to capture interest and emotion in some of the candid pictures I take, so take anything I tell you with a grain of salt. ;)
Be specific...tell me if you want us to focus on street photography, kids and family, daily life, or something more commercial (such as weddings, etc.). I am open to anything. I also need to know if you would like us to be more of a discussion group or have assignments for critique. I am up for either or both. So tell me what you folks want from this and we will get the ball rolling! :)
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07/10/2005 06:06:34 PM · #4 |
Hello Laurie and fellow groupees.
I do not know about the rest of you, but as far as candids are concerned, I am most interested in street photography and "found" photography. I seem to be on the very shy end of tjhe spectrum, and wonder how each of you handle the "asking or stealing" of the photographs of strangers. I normally depend on a long lens and lots of distance, but definately want to get over the fear and have conversations with the people I am shooting. Thoughts?
Barbara
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07/10/2005 07:28:46 PM · #5 |
Hi everyone,
I'm excited about this focus group and am looking forward to learning as much as i can from you all. I too have issues with asking strangers to photograph them and am sort of shy, like Barbara. Any help in the area is welcome. Any subject, ie street, family etc. is fine by me.
I would like a mixture of discussion and assignment as I find both very helpful. Can't wait to get started!
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07/10/2005 07:39:18 PM · #6 |
Great responses so far! I can't wait to hear from the rest of the crew while I formulate a plan. ;)
So far this is the group roster...I've added two four more today!!!
Candid----> laurielblack, lentil, BAMartin, pixieland, di53, nico_blue, bvoi, skief, leaf, bobdaveant, deapee, and ADGibson.
Anyone else want to join us!
edit to add two new names!
Keep your posts coming!!!
Message edited by author 2005-07-10 23:52:03.
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07/10/2005 07:45:41 PM · #7 |
One more thing... I recently came across an article written by a film photographer about combatting shyness in street photography. Might be something to read when you have a moment. Her exercise is based on film, but you could adapt it to digital by subsituting the number 96 for "four rolls" when she mentions it. Just a thought. :0)
Techniques: Shyness
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07/10/2005 07:47:16 PM · #8 |
hi laurie! I am excited to be part of your group :)
As far as i am concerned, i always seem to be drawn to candids more than anything. I am not usually one for posed shots (not that theres anything wrong with that) ;)
I guess what i would love to do is definately family/friends candids. I have been asked to join a lady in doing weddings and I love the formality of weddings but i also love the idea of candid wedding shots (of course that is if the couple want that). Some of my favourite photos have been candids or something very unplanned.
I am like Barbara when it comes to asking people in public, I am just petrified. (as you can see by my extreme action shot, I just ran after i took that, i felt so bad)
Man I can ramble. :). Basically i would love to know how to better my candids with the people i love without feeling like i am interrupting their "space".
I will be out most of the day but i will keep an eye on this later when i get home.
THANKS LAURIE YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!
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07/10/2005 07:59:42 PM · #9 |
Wow, that is a very interesting article! I read it through quickly, but will read it again before I got out trying for some candids (hopefully tomorrow).
Originally posted by laurielblack:
One more thing... I recently came across an article written by a film photographer about combatting shyness in street photography. Might be something to read when you have a moment. Her exercise is based on film, but you could adapt it to digital by subsituting the number 96 for "four rolls" when she mentions it. Just a thought. :0)
Techniques: Shyness |
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07/10/2005 08:05:58 PM · #10 |
interesting reading Laurie. Keep em comin girl :)
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07/10/2005 08:18:28 PM · #11 |
I would ike to join this group if that is OK, I am interested in Street type candids, because of where I work I have access to many situations that could provide these type of shots. Look forward to being part of ths team. Thanks in advance.
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07/10/2005 08:23:54 PM · #12 |
Whew...went out for the day and had a riot..We noticed some thick black smoke, and went to investigate and if possible take pics of what was burning. Whne we got there the police were cordoning it off.
I stood there with my camera in hand, in the middle of the street and asked questions..(three houses they thought it started in house 58) and took a few pics
All the policemen knew that I was there and that I was takign pictures. The officer with the yellow tape talked to me and watched me take pictures also of the flower int eh garden next to him.
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07/10/2005 08:27:16 PM · #13 |
| That's brave di53. Good job. |
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07/10/2005 08:29:49 PM · #14 |
| Street candids sound like a fun and challenging place to start. |
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07/10/2005 09:26:54 PM · #15 |
Way to go Di!! That is so wonderful for you!!!!
OK...so far I hear that street candids are what we are interested in, followed by family/children. I also am hearing that shyness and feeling uncomfortable are issues that inhibit your photography. I'd like to hear from the rest of the group before developing any particular "lessons" but I think that the fear of taking pictures of unknown strangers in public (especially children) is very common.
I have had the extreme good fortune of being an extrovert most of my life. I taught theatre arts and public speaking for three years before getting into counseling. So I know about fear, and some of the same techniques I applied in my classes to overcome stage fright could also be appropriate here, I think.
One thing I would like to know, if you feel comfortable posting, is:
What exactly are you afraid of when it comes to photographing and/or approaching strangers? Is it the actual approach? Being spotted? Being perceived as intruding, or as a pervert, or as a spy? Being sued for using an image without permission? Being harrassed, yelled at, or beaten to a pulp? I'm really not trying to be facetious, I would like to know. We can't face our fears without identifying them first.
Something to keep in your bag, and has been posted several times that I know of here in the forums, is a copy of The Photographer's Rights by Bert P. Krages II. You can download a pdf version, print it off, and refer to it when needed. You can see that you DO have the right to take photographs in public. Yes, there are limits, so I think it's important for us to understand those. You can view the rights
here.
One other interesting article I found today about street candids and snapshots can be read here. Of course, it's intended for those traveling through third world countries and the like, but he covers some interesting points regardless.
Enjoy your reading, discussing, and posting... I'll be back with you soon!!!
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07/10/2005 09:28:53 PM · #16 |
UPDATE: update, Toronto Fire
Originally posted by di53:
Whew...went out for the day and had a riot..We noticed some thick black smoke, and went to investigate and if possible take pics of what was burning. Whne we got there the police were cordoning it off.
I stood there with my camera in hand, in the middle of the street and asked questions..(three houses they thought it started in house 58) and took a few pics
All the policemen knew that I was there and that I was takign pictures. The officer with the yellow tape talked to me and watched me take pictures also of the flower int eh garden next to him. |
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07/10/2005 09:37:19 PM · #17 |
Wow Di, that fire sounds horrible. Interesting place to be as this forum just starts out.
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07/10/2005 09:50:04 PM · #18 |
| tell me about it! I'm so greatful no one or critter was hurt! |
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07/10/2005 10:33:39 PM · #19 |
My last shot of the night, my kids were playing in the pool and one of the neighborhood kids, (a very shy one) was watching near by. The lighting was very dark, but I did my best at capturing a suprising nice little smile from this little guy as he caught me taking his photo. The shot was a little grainy, so I softened it a bit in post processing and converted it to B & W. Comments?
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07/10/2005 10:43:52 PM · #20 |
What a great moment to capture!!! Comment left on image. :)
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07/10/2005 11:05:34 PM · #21 |
This is exactly the sort of candid I strive for. What a wonderful, sweet shot.
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07/10/2005 11:33:52 PM · #22 |
Hi group :-)
Im really excited about this. like many other people i am really scared of taking random people in the street kinda shots, but hopefully i will overcome that fear.
Seems this group is off to a great start, looking forward to learning from you all.
Nick
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07/10/2005 11:49:10 PM · #23 |
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07/10/2005 11:51:42 PM · #24 |
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07/11/2005 10:06:33 AM · #25 |
I'm in a little different boat than most people. I'm an American living in Belarus (country located between Russia and Poland). I feel I'm pretty bold in taking photos, but I still have the worries, especially since I am a foreigner here, and can't precisely tell people what it is that I am doing, and why I am doing it. I do tend to shoot inconspicuously as possible, but if they see me doing it, I then respond and show them the picture. I've taken photos of people selling things outside of stores (like apples they've grown themselves), and if I do, I tend to purchase some from them, and they become appreciative.
Some of my existing street shots are here: Candid Street Photos (Mainly B&W)
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