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05/01/2003 02:29:42 AM · #1 |
I'd be interested to know how people are voting for the sticker challenges, and also what kind of score range is everyone in?
Personally I voted on:
1) How professional the design looked.
2) How easy it was to see the relevant information.
3) How the overall design appealed to my eye.
4) (Not so important) How much I think the design relates to the 'look and feel' of DPC or DPCPrints.
I'm going to be trying to leave a comment on every submission over this week.
Message edited by author 2003-05-01 02:39:58.
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05/01/2003 04:25:19 AM · #2 |
I have just gone through the sticker submissions and felt a little uncomfortable after voting on the fist ten entries. Here we are in a photo contest having to vote on images with basically graphic layout and advertising criteria (I did expect more photo-based works). My voting average was lower than usual on this one, I think I will go back and find some other way to grade that series.
Having worked in this field (layout and advertising) for a while, I have developed an allergy over the time to things like beveled letters, drop shadows and images that suffer from PPPS (PowerPoint Presentation Syndrome). I will try to overcome this affliction.
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05/01/2003 04:48:38 AM · #3 |
I usually am a very low voter and today it was even lower. So I had to go back and do it all over again. My given score is between 4 and 8 mostly 5s. I tried very hard to make a good sticker from a photo but I didn´t do very well so it had to be a graphic one. I wasn´t very happy about this but I didn´t think my photo based stickers became clear enough.
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05/01/2003 07:29:34 AM · #4 |
Well I submitted for the DPC sticker... and I'm actually regretting it. I should learn to follow the rule that if you like your stuff dont submit it. I kept it simple and I loved it and it backfired cuz I'm barely getting a 5. It's discouraging, thanks.
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05/01/2003 07:57:43 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by BigSmiles:
Well I submitted for the DPC sticker... and I'm actually regretting it. I should learn to follow the rule that if you like your stuff dont submit it. I kept it simple and I loved it and it backfired cuz I'm barely getting a 5. It's discouraging, thanks. |
I know what you mean I really spent a lot of time on my stickers and I am not doing all that well either. I really liked mine but you are so right if you like it don't submit it. |
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05/01/2003 08:20:55 AM · #6 |
I submitted the wrong version of mine.
heh
People are probably looking at it going "what in the world?" |
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05/01/2003 08:26:46 AM · #7 |
Mine are doing the exponential dive right now - last night (though admittedly with only 7 votes) one was 7.5, and the other 8.25. Now, both are below seven.
But it was so cool for like ten minutes!
Martin |
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05/01/2003 08:49:39 AM · #8 |
My scoring range was also quite low. I felt that most of the entries did not tell a viewer who was not already familiar with the site what the site is about. Since the object of this sticker is to advertise the site, I feel we have to give the viewer more than just a URL; they have to know what's in it for them, so to speak.
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05/01/2003 08:58:23 AM · #9 |
| I voted on how well it represented dpchallenge. To me, more than any other time I've looked at photos to judge (haven't voted much yet, still observing) I was looking for images that "popped" I also kept in mind that these are small stickers, overcrowded images got a lower score. However, I didn't give any thing less than a four because I think they are all very artistic and I felt everyone gave a good effort. |
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05/01/2003 09:03:43 AM · #10 |
I voted for which ones I felt would do the best at selling the site to people who wouldn't have known anything about it. I gave anyone who made a good attempt a 4, but mostly voted in the 6s and 7s with 10s going to the ones I thought were the best advertisements.
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05/01/2003 09:08:54 AM · #11 |
| I have already voted on both contest, and I was amazed at the over-all work that was submitted, I gave high scores to the ones that told me as much as they could without alot of words, catchy quotes. I judged it, if i saw it on a bumper, would it catch my eye and would I have time to read it while driving down the road, most of you all did such a fantastic job, congrats to you all that entered. |
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05/01/2003 10:40:22 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by jjbeguin:
I have just gone through the sticker submissions and felt a little uncomfortable after voting on the fist ten entries. Here we are in a photo contest having to vote on images with basically graphic layout and advertising criteria (I did expect more photo-based works). My voting average was lower than usual on this one, I think I will go back and find some other way to grade that series.
Having worked in this field (layout and advertising) for a while, I have developed an allergy over the time to things like beveled letters, drop shadows and images that suffer from PPPS (PowerPoint Presentation Syndrome). I will try to overcome this affliction. |
I'm okay with drop shadows, but I do feel the same way as you about bevels. I think that most of the time, it just looks... I dunno, I can't explain it, but I know what you mean :)
I wouldn't change your voting if I were you. You sound like you know what you are doing, and you should vote on which you think work best.
Message edited by author 2003-05-01 10:40:35.
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05/01/2003 10:45:23 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by draney4:
I judged it, if i saw it on a bumper, would it catch my eye and would I have time to read it while driving down the road, most of you all did such a fantastic job, congrats to you all that entered. |
Thanks, but I don't think that's a completely fair criterion, since these were (in my mind anyway) not designed to be seen from far away like a bumper sticker, but up close (e.g. as a seal on a large envelope of photos, stuck on a backing sheet and sent as a postcard, etc.). I think bumper stickers have different design requirements.
How about asking yourself if you'd turn it over and read the offer if it came as a postcard advertisement...
Message edited by author 2003-05-01 10:46:53. |
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05/01/2003 11:07:32 AM · #14 |
| Would suggest that who ever does win, get the sticker slightly altered so that if it currently contains "a digital photography contest" to "digital photography contests" as this is far accurate and is likely to generate far more interest. |
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05/01/2003 11:18:41 AM · #15 |
To me a lot of these entries look more suited to print advertisements than a sticker. These could obviously never be used as an effective bumper sticker, they're simply too small.
There were several that I thought were solid entries but would not look good as a sticker.
What's up with the sock snake? heh |
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05/01/2003 11:26:51 AM · #16 |
Somehow I have submitted almost identical stickers and my votes are 4.46 and 5.61 WTF! LOL
If I thought it was to be a bumper sticker, I would have put a lot less on it. I thought it was a 3x5 sticky sticker. *shrug*
I should have only submit the dpc Prints one! oh well! I'm hoping people go "shoot, these photogs did some hard work - let's take a look at how hard I was grading their PS work." I mean y'all know these are on our permanent records AND dpc's permanent record. Do you really want the winning score for ANY challenge to be like 5.9?
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05/01/2003 12:42:03 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by draney4:
I judged it, if i saw it on a bumper, would it catch my eye and would I have time to read it while driving down the road, most of you all did such a fantastic job, congrats to you all that entered. |
Thanks, but I don't think that's a completely fair criterion, since these were (in my mind anyway) not designed to be seen from far away like a bumper sticker, but up close (e.g. as a seal on a large envelope of photos, stuck on a backing sheet and sent as a postcard, etc.). I think bumper stickers have different design requirements.
How about asking yourself if you'd turn it over and read the offer if it came as a postcard advertisement... |
you might be right on this, but I still feel it would have to catch my eye, and to the point on the subject matter, even if it were on a envelope ,because of all the competition for your business now-a-days. so if it didn't get my attention then, It wouldn't if it was a page long, and or on the front page, |
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05/01/2003 12:59:28 PM · #18 |
Overall, the sticker designs were about what I expected... more graphic design, less photo.
Since the challenge was to create "printable" stickers, I felt that multi-colored images (containing photos) would probabaly not be the best choice when its time to go to print. More colors used to = higher cost. But perhaps things have changed with the advent of digital.
With one exception :) the designs I liked the best were simple and direct images that were't too cluttered with text.
My half-baked entry, on the other hand, is far too cluttered with text and has the design appeal of a box of crackers. And the score it's getting reflects this with mirror-like precision :)
Message edited by author 2003-05-01 13:00:20. |
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05/01/2003 01:02:49 PM · #19 |
| I dunno man, I've seen some pretty sexy boxes of crackers. ;) |
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05/01/2003 01:24:34 PM · #20 |
I rated images on how effective they would be at advertising. I didn't consider them in the context of a bumper sticker, in which case all text would need to be quite large and minimalistic. I thought of it as something that would be stuck on a wall or post in some pedestrian laden area, so I figured it needed to have enough large scale instant appeal to draw the viewer in, but that the informational details (i.e. url) could be less obvious.
A clean, clear professional look was important.
It also seemed important that the sticker represented dpc effectively.
Also, a certain minimal amount of information was important so that someone completely unfamilar with dpc would have a general impression of what the site was.
When it really came down to it though, I just thought "If I had never heard of dpc, and I saw this sticker, how badly (if at all) would I want to check it out?"
The answer to that question pretty much determined the score in the end.
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05/01/2003 01:33:39 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by mcmurma:
... the designs I liked the best were simple and direct images that were't too cluttered with text.
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Ditto
I really liked the simpler designs that had graphical design - strong composition, balance, simplicity. I do think less is more here.
I scored between 2 and 10.
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05/01/2003 02:08:36 PM · #22 |
funny. I got a comment that mine is TOO simple.
I really don't completely understand why this was done as a challenge to be voted on. Sure you want a design that is appealing to the general audience, but I have to say that the average voter here probably knows more about photography than graphic design. I certainly think that I do.
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05/01/2003 02:31:38 PM · #23 |
They did it as a contest because it's an easy an fun way to solicit artwork for their project. Remember that Drew and Langdon are not at all bound by the results of the voting.
When planning a promotion, it's always a good idea to check out a variety of themes and styles before committing to a project. Not every company is lucky enough to have an "art department" of several hundred artists...
Oh, and I have about 10 times the experience in graphic arts as in photography, so I have no valid excuse...
Message edited by author 2003-05-01 14:32:59. |
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05/01/2003 02:48:17 PM · #24 |
| Also, if you like your design, increase the canvas size 1/2-inch all around and print up a few 4x6 prints and don't worry about your score...it is my understanding that we are free (obligated?) to promote the site and our work by any legal means...make your own stickers on an inkjet printer... |
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05/01/2003 02:52:20 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by indigo997:
I got a comment that mine is TOO simple. I really don't completely understand why this was done as a challenge to be voted on. Sure you want a design that is appealing to the general audience, but I have to say that the average voter here probably knows more about photography than graphic design. I certainly think that I do. |
I'm assuming the target audience that they hope the stickers will appeal to (particularly so for dpchallenge) are people like us. So what we like might well be relevant.
My thought on it anyway.
Less sure for dpcprints since that's a different target audience.
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