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06/15/2005 07:01:03 PM · #1 |
OK ... I know this challenge has been over for a few days, but I just have to ask. I pretty much knew that I would get "beat up" for the photo I submitted, but I certainly don't think it deserved less than a 5! It fits the challenge "Naturally Framed", because what is more framing than long eyelashes around an eye? Some shots that were nowhere near being "natural" got higher scores than mine, and for that, I am disappointed. Is it composition? Subject? Just a note: I did no sharpening on this image. I tried NeatImage, but I didn't like the softening of the skin.
Please ... let me know what's wrong with it?
Message edited by author 2005-06-15 19:01:49. |
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06/15/2005 07:21:29 PM · #2 |
hmm i dunno, it just doesn't have that snap, that punch that will grab the viewer. the eye looks bored. i would have cropped it tighter.
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06/15/2005 07:26:36 PM · #3 |
I think it's because the eye doesn't look sparkly and exciting..too flat and bored looking...
Message edited by author 2005-06-15 19:27:33. |
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06/15/2005 07:29:57 PM · #4 |
| When I just looked at it, first focal point was the sheen/glitter-look on the skin. The eye gets a glance, then the attention goes back to the attention-grabbing skin. Good shot, but bet with a different processing technique, it would pop. |
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06/15/2005 07:34:12 PM · #5 |
| the subject and the frame occupy very small area and the sharpy skin around takes all the attention... |
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06/15/2005 07:38:32 PM · #6 |
I believe that people had a hang up with the challenge appropriatness. Although I completely agree and understand about eyelashes, Brad is right about the focal point. If you continue to submit interesting material like this, that score will start to rise.
My suggestion: Keep up with the quality. Sometimes showing more helps put reference in the viewer's eye. Look at some other people's photos that you admire and see what "works" and then come up with something that "works" for you.
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06/15/2005 07:40:55 PM · #7 |
| It's kinda soft and the lighting seems a little harsh (bright spots on the skin and a dark shadow from the eyelashes on the left side). The skin is distracting -- softer lighting (i.e., larger light source) would've helped that too. As others mentioned, the eye looks bored. And I personally don't like the angle very much for an eye shot. Sorry about all the negative comments. I hope it helps though. Even with all those issues, it's not a bad photo. 4.766 does seem a little low... it looks more like a 5.0 shot to me. |
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06/15/2005 07:51:22 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by LadeeM:
I pretty much knew that I would get "beat up" for the photo I submitted, but I certainly don't think it deserved less than a 5! It fits the challenge "Naturally Framed", because what is more framing than long eyelashes around an eye? ...
Is it composition? Subject? Just a note: I did no sharpening on this image. I tried NeatImage, but I didn't like the softening of the skin.
Please ... let me know what's wrong with it? |
First, you overestimate DPC voters ability to be open minded about what meets a challenge. I guarantee it scored below 5 because most people feel it does not meet the challenge at all or not particularly well.
You may have had a slight backlash because eye macro images are popular on this site and so are not thought to be particularly creative. However, the technical flaw that holds down the score most is there are a lot of annoying white specks around the eylashes and on the subject's skin. It is also possible the outer ring included around the eye may have been thought to be unflattering. Review the eye macro images that have scored high and you will see they do not share these traits.
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06/15/2005 07:56:40 PM · #9 |
As a quick follow-up, I felt compelled to see if I could take my critique and lead by example:
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Though not the natural color of the eye as is in the original, I hue shifted & changed saturation levels in it to this color to add a mystique & mood to it. As far as the skin went, a new layer via copy, gaussian blur added, erasing back in the eye, flattening and repeating two more times. (I like to work in small steps rather than a huge change, which can pixelate).
A bit softer & change of focal point can make a huge change.
Easiest way to compare, is to click each thumbnail, then switch between them in the task bar.
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06/15/2005 08:14:46 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by BradP:
As a quick follow-up, I felt compelled to see if I could take my critique and lead by example:
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The skin is very difficult to smooth and get rid of its harshness without making it look unnatural, but yours is a good attempt.
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06/15/2005 08:22:38 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by BradP:
As a quick follow-up, I felt compelled to see if I could take my critique and lead by example:
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Though not the natural color of the eye as is in the original, I hue shifted & changed saturation levels in it to this color to add a mystique & mood to it. As far as the skin went, a new layer via copy, gaussian blur added, erasing back in the eye, flattening and repeating two more times. (I like to work in small steps rather than a huge change, which can pixelate).
A bit softer & change of focal point can make a huge change.
Easiest way to compare, is to click each thumbnail, then switch between them in the task bar. |
I admit that the color does make the image "pop". As I said, I had tried neatimage, and didn't like the outcome, and I rather liked the shimmery look of her skin. In fact, I put glittery eyeshadow on her for that purpose. However, the blur adds a softness without losing the detail I was looking for.
As for angles, I took about 15 shots, all at different angles, and this was the one I like best. I love the expression in her eye, and truth be told, she was cracking up just before I took this shot. That's part of why I love her eyes ... the half open, lazy look. A wide open eye creeps me out. :)
Here's the original, in case you would like to show me different ways you would have done it!
Thanks for all the comments, and keep em coming. This is what helps me learn more about photography, composition, and working with PS.
Tara |
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06/15/2005 08:33:05 PM · #12 |
| I have to agree with alot of the people who posted, the eye just looks bored, maybe if your face was more expressed it would have come out differently. Also, I think your focal point needs to be more dramatic, the brown seems to dull and although that is your natural eye color it does not capture the voters attention. BradP's example was nicely done and dimonstrates what I mean. |
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06/15/2005 09:19:57 PM · #13 |
| I think the eyelid is coming to far down, covering too much of the eye. It looks like she's falling asleep. Just my opinion...hope I didn't offend. |
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