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05/04/2005 08:35:57 AM · #1
Recently I've been asked/invited to make a book for somehone who intend to be a model. A so called "book".

A few questions and doubts run in to my mind and I declined the proposal. But a few more opportunities has arrived, so I'm looking in to the question.

So the "book" is a real book? Like an album with pictures of the model? I've readed that it shoul contain different kind of photos, like some close ups, others like full body, and some artistic nudes. can anyone confirm this?

So how do you make a book of a model?

Do you do it differently if it is an adult or a children? A man or a woman?

what do you take in consireration to do it?

Any good site or book to look in to? or to see some examples?
05/04/2005 08:43:52 AM · #2
I have heard of things such as 'portfolio'. I have never heard of 'book'.
I tried some searching and got nothing...
05/04/2005 09:21:47 AM · #3
Try amazon.com
//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/2029/ref=br_bx_c_1_9/002-1307221-0757621
05/04/2005 09:26:43 AM · #4
A book/portfolio are one and the same.

Here's the thing, a book cannot be done in one sitting by one photographer as it must show the diversity of the model, different make-up, hairstyles outfits, settings, lighting ect.. are necessary in order to showcase the versatility of the model.

That being said, if the model is female and age 18+ then, the expected shots are: headshot, 3/4 and full shots showcasing different features and attitudes.

Hope thise helps.

Message edited by author 2005-05-04 09:26:57.
05/04/2005 09:54:58 AM · #5
NUNO,

Try this site. I have a few of their books and they are really good. You will find what you want here.

Amherst Media Photo Books
05/04/2005 09:59:47 AM · #6
perhaps a short warning for that link would have been good :)

Originally posted by mkirdal:

Try amazon.com
//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/2029/ref=br_bx_c_1_9/002-1307221-0757621
05/04/2005 10:12:31 AM · #7
Originally posted by Gil P:

A book/portfolio are one and the same.



Yes I've thought the same.

But around here many photographers are advertising the makink of "books" for people wanting to be models.
05/04/2005 10:17:47 AM · #8
If you just want a book showing how to create a Model Portfolio (BOOK) then try "Professional Model Portfolios, a step-by-step Guide for Photographers" by Billy Pegram.

Use the link I posted Above. Its a very useful book

05/04/2005 10:23:25 AM · #9
That Amazon link is classic comedy...

"Photography for Perverts"

I never would have thought that such a book existed. Absolutely hilarious.
05/04/2005 10:23:46 AM · #10
To get your book printed/published, try Lulu. You make a word or pdf document, upload it to them and they do the rest. They do print on demand and sell and ship to whoever wants to buy your book.

The colour versions print immacuate. Stick away from the cheaper B+W versions though. quality isn't good enough for a photo book.

Message edited by author 2005-05-04 10:24:36.
05/04/2005 10:31:55 AM · #11
I have used a version of the book on //www.snapfish.com and although the options are limited it was really a nice book and memory for my parents of a farm museum they used to run. They have tons of other stuff to create too. I like that lulu idea...I'm checking it out now.
05/04/2005 10:48:21 AM · #12
If you have a Mac or access to one, you can create a very elegant book/album yourself, very simply and quickly right from inside iPhoto, either hard- or softcover.

I have had several books made here and was very pleased with the result every time.
05/04/2005 01:34:19 PM · #13
Reading all these post, I wonder if people even read... The person was asking about how to create a portfolio for a model... not about books on how to make them.
05/04/2005 01:52:02 PM · #14
Originally posted by Nuno:

Any good book to look in to?


Originally posted by Gil P:

The person was asking about how to create a portfolio for a model... not about books


extraneous text removed to make this funnier :)
05/04/2005 02:10:05 PM · #15
Funny that Gil P. Cause I'm sure he also asked if there were any good books available that may help him...... Hmmmmmmm
05/04/2005 02:10:22 PM · #16
Originally posted by Gil P:

Reading all these post, I wonder if people even read... The person was asking about how to create a portfolio for a model... not about books on how to make them.


or, if they did read, chose a response relating only what they knew something about.
05/04/2005 02:50:27 PM · #17
Originally posted by Gil P:

Here's the thing, a book cannot be done in one sitting by one photographer as it must show the diversity of the model, different make-up, hairstyles outfits, settings, lighting ect.. are necessary in order to showcase the versatility of the model.


I'm with Gil on this. You cannot make a book for someone. I often shoot multiple sessions with young people who cannot afford to rent a studio and all the gear that comes with it (lights, wind machine - not just a house fan but a large box or construction fan, furniture, etc). I shoot enough for them to get a start and they go to other local photogs, too. At some point once they have a decent start on building a book they start seeking represenation (assuming it wasn't an agent or rep the referred them to me in the first place). I have had several agencies utilize the test shots that I did for the models rather than having new test work done for them. As they get a job here or there they start replacing my work (and the work of similar photogs).

Once published they may choose to also carry copies of their work as tear sheets.

Another item that they may want produced are ZED cards which can include around 3-6 photos of the subject. Usually these cards are a half-sheet sized (5.5" x 8.5") and they may have a larger photo on one side with smaller ones on the other side but the card will also contain pertinent stats like height, eye color, sizes of tops, pants or shoes and any other little tidbits that might be helpful to a placement agency. These are normally printed on slightly heavier cardstock than most photos are printed on.

For the work I've done for agencies I find most want the same poses to start off with regardless of what goes into a potential model's book. Have the model stand in his/her undergarments or relatively fitted swimwear. He/she should have next to no makeup on and the hair should not be fashioned other than to keep it out of his/her face. Take a shot in flat lighting with him/her facing you with hands straight down to the sides and toes pointed toward you (shot 1). These shots do not need any particular expression. Now have him/her point toes 90 degrees to one side and look straight ahead with hands down to side (shot 2). Keep the body turned the same but have him/her turn the head to look into the camera and take shot 3. Now have him/her face 180 degrees around so that the body is pointed to the other side. Take another profile with him/her facing away (shot 4) and then have him/her look at you while facing to that side (shot 5). Finally have him/her face away from you with hands down to side. If the hair falls down the back, place it over the shoulder on one side or the other (shot 6).

These are the shots I've been asked to give to a couple of representative agencies in Atlanta, GA. Apparently they want to have a good representation of what they have to work with to go along with all the shots in the aspiring model's portfolio.

I've never had an agency request nudes except for Playboy and when the subjects found out that Playboy requested full frontal nudity to even consider a subject's submission each young person declined (can't say I blame them either).

That's just been my experience with such things.

Kev
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