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09/12/2002 03:18:53 PM · #1 |
Didn't enter this challenge but what do people think about these pictures ?
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09/12/2002 03:27:33 PM · #2 |
| Whoa! COOL! I really like these. They're very artistic and beautiful. I especially love the bottom one. Why didn't you enter? |
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09/12/2002 03:28:21 PM · #3 |
I think they'd be disqualified for not being the right dimensions. :) Other than that I think they are great.
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
Didn't enter this challenge but what do people think about these pictures ?
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Gordon
* This message has been edited by the author on 9/12/2002 3:27:15 PM.
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09/12/2002 03:29:58 PM · #4 |
Very nice Gordon.
The first appears to take a very traditional approach and add the painterly feel to the image with short depth of field. Obviously the berries lend themselves very well to the black and white format. Has an early photographic period piece feel about it...Like pinhole photography. I get a sense (don't know if this is true or not) that you have been reading some stuff on pinhole photography from this first photo. It has that very short and narrow DOF and overall soft feel of Pinhole photography.
The second is more interesting to my eye. The composition forces you to look at it for identifying features. Which encourages a feeling of opening a present//unwrapping the paper. Once you recognize the apple in the middle then the subtle reflections become more apparent and the forms take shape..Fools you into an abstract frame of mind and then pulls you into reality kind of thing.
I would have rated a 9 to the first and a 10 to the second. Good work :-)
* This message has been edited by the author on 9/12/2002 3:30:28 PM. |
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09/12/2002 03:31:04 PM · #5 |
The top one is ok
The bottom one is killer though. Probably a 9 from me, for whatever that's worth
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09/12/2002 03:35:55 PM · #6 |
| Wow, who would have thought fruit in black and white. Very Nice!! |
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09/12/2002 03:41:06 PM · #7 |
I find the bottom one more interesting although both are well-done. I like that you didn't use "perfect, unblemished" fruit.
* This message has been edited by the author on 9/12/2002 3:39:51 PM. |
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09/12/2002 03:50:05 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
Wow, who would have thought fruit in black and white. Very Nice!!
I wholeheartedly agree. Generally, fruits and vegetables don't lend themselves well to B&W because the colors are so naturally vivid. The use of the swirling thing as the way to focus on the apple is reminiscent of the beginning of a James Bond movie, and very very innovative. It works with the top one, but I think some color would benefit that particular photo. IMO, the reason B&W works so well in the second shot is because the photo does not focus particularly on the fruit, but the shot as a whole. Again, you are unlucky that you didn't take these pictures at the right time or a fool for not entering them.
I hope one day I have your kind of ability. Nice work!!
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09/12/2002 04:53:30 PM · #9 |
great images. my favorite is the first one. would have got my top pick of the week.
i completely disagree on the fruit not lending itself well to b&w. there are some amazing b&w still lifes of fruit and vegetables.
this brings up another aggrivation about the rules on this site. there shouldnt be restrictions on canvas size. trying to crop every image to the two options we have is really aggrivating. i love square crops. most medium format cameras produce square images. film size 2 1/4 x 2 1/2. we should at least have the same proportions as most standard prints or negatives. anyway enough of that.
great shots gordon. love to see some more.
wow, gordon, i was just looking at your profile. only had a camera since december. "just learning". you have progressed very well. you have a great eye. there are some very nice images on your pbase site.
i'm suspicous now though. these two shots you posted here dont look like any of your other shots. did you take these? i wouldnt be surprised if you did. : )
* This message has been edited by the author on 9/12/2002 5:01:58 PM. |
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09/12/2002 06:56:22 PM · #10 |
Sorry - I didn't mean to mislead people. I didn't enter
the challenge and happened to come across these images
(I didn't take them) and was curious what people thought
about them. They are by a local Texas photographer called
Keith Carter who is having an exhibition locally.
You can find more of his work here
I wish I had taken them though!
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09/12/2002 07:08:15 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by goodtimecharlee:
great images. my favorite is the first one. would have got my top pick of the week.
i completely disagree on the fruit not lending itself well to b&w. there are some amazing b&w still lifes of fruit and vegetables....
I won't argue that there are some good b&w still of f&v, I'm sure there are. For me, I think its the color that puts the "life" into still life shots of the f&v. As for the remark about picture sizes, Amen...there shouldn't be a rule about sizes thats so strict.
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09/12/2002 07:11:11 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by goodtimecharlee:
...this brings up another aggrivation about the rules on this site. there shouldnt be restrictions on canvas size. trying to crop every image to the two options we have is really aggrivating. i love square crops. most medium format cameras produce square images. film size 2 1/4 x 2 1/2. we should at least have the same proportions as most standard prints or negatives...
I believe there is a site "upgrade" or makeover in the works, and part of the redesign will probably lift the proportional restraints in favor of maximum limits on the longest side and total filesize. Exact figures are not available yet, though...be patient everyone.
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09/12/2002 07:25:21 PM · #13 |
I have really enjoyed this "challenge" and have given many high marks to the beautiful and colorful submissions. I don't like either of the photo's you have shown. First of all I have in my possession old magazines that contained all black & white photo's and they were totally boring. The covers were done in color {sketch's} as on a Cappers Weekly of Feb. 1931. These were often cut out, framed and hung on the wall, not because of there artistic value but because they offer color to the homemaker. Pictures were taken with a Kodak, black & white film because they were affordable. Yuk!
The first photo is so precisely arranged that it loses the beauty of the fruit and would be much nicer if done in the beautiful colors of nature. The second one does not focus on the fruit but indeed the bowl it is placed in. It is probably a very pretty bowl but I like color with the flow of the line. The fruit looks like what I would throw in the garbage can.
Some black and white prints are nice but God gave us color to delight our senses. |
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09/12/2002 07:47:56 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Ruth Skidmore:
...Some black and white prints are nice but God gave us color to delight our senses.
Except for the perhaps 1 in 1000 like my Aunt Bette who was a performing concert violinist by age 11, but was also color-blind. I myself have a common red-green variety, which lets me see colors, but not the same as the other 95% of the population (about 10% of men have some kind of color-vision defect). It can provide for some interesting results. |
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09/12/2002 08:06:51 PM · #15 |
Gordon, do you have any idea with what camera these pictures were made? The first one strikes me as having been taken with an old camera. Reminds me of the work by Emil Schildt on photosig who makes fabulous pictures often with very old cameras.
Both images are wonderful: Art. |
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09/12/2002 11:12:33 PM · #16 |
I like the second photo a lot. The geometry of the shot is nice. I like the dimension choices. I like the tones. It would score an 8-9 with me.
The first I don't care for at all. I despise the DOF choice. (hee hee, strong enough language?) I don't care for the lighting -- I feel a lack of detail in the fruit as a result. I don't like the really anything about it.
They are very different images, which is interesting in itself.
less than 2 cents this time; still using $1's real estate,
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09/12/2002 11:57:50 PM · #17 |
| Am I mistaken, or is the second one an apple seen in the aperture of a camera shutter?!? |
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09/13/2002 05:57:08 AM · #18 |
I love both shots and I'm especially jealous of the first one. I was particularly keen to try and do a B&W for the fruit and veg challenge since I guessed that vibrant colour was likely to be the order of the day for most. In the end I couldn't find a shot that I liked in B&W and went with a colour shot of my own - in fact colour became the most important element of my own shot. But that berries shot there is exactly the sort of thing I was hoping to do. I'm sooo jealous!
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09/13/2002 06:07:18 AM · #19 |
It's all been said but they are both great.
Of the two I love the berry one best.
It's just got a feel about it.
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09/13/2002 10:10:37 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Journey:
Gordon, do you have any idea with what camera these pictures were made? The first one strikes me as having been taken with an old camera. Reminds me of the work by Emil Schildt on photosig who makes fabulous pictures often with very old cameras.
Both images are wonderful: Art.
Unfortunately I don't know the details. The photographer's web
site doesn't offer up any more insight, though I might find out
at the weekend when I go and see his latest exhibition.
Or you could email him - the details are on his web site:
//www.keithcarterphotographs.com |
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