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01/24/2005 03:03:53 PM · #1 |
I find it amusing that so many people think using a completely literal interpretation of a challenge title is 'thinking outside the box'. I feel strongly that it's the exact opposite! Thinking outside the box is being able to take the challenge details and present them in a new and exciting way...and it's really "outside the box" if it's something other people didn't think of.
Anyway, my two cents.
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01/24/2005 03:07:35 PM · #2 |
i don't see the point of this thread...
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01/24/2005 03:09:31 PM · #3 |
| I posted after having just seen about a dozen very normal tree shots in the Breaking New Ground challenge. |
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01/24/2005 03:11:56 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
I find it amusing that so many people think using a completely literal interpretation of a challenge title is 'thinking outside the box'. I feel strongly that it's the exact opposite! Thinking outside the box is being able to take the challenge details and present them in a new and exciting way...and it's really "outside the box" if it's something other people didn't think of.
Anyway, my two cents. |
You forgot to mention that it's way outside the box (and thus "art") if people look at it, scratch their heads and say, "I don't get it."
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01/24/2005 03:14:35 PM · #5 |
Too many people are getting outside the box now-a-days and it isn't always working.
I think staying inside the box is going to be the new hip thing.
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01/24/2005 03:18:36 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
I find it amusing that so many people think using a completely literal interpretation of a challenge title is 'thinking outside the box'. I feel strongly that it's the exact opposite! Thinking outside the box is being able to take the challenge details and present them in a new and exciting way...and it's really "outside the box" if it's something other people didn't think of.
Anyway, my two cents. |
I find it fascinating when going through the voting process, to see the diversity of thought processes in the challenges. Where your thought process may well be "artistic" and very much "outside the box", there are many peeps whose thought processes are very literal, and when they shoot photos, the photos will be representational of their literal way of looking at life.
There's room for all views here, and it would be SO boring if we all thought, and shot photos, in exactly the same way.
That's my two cents! ;-)
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01/24/2005 03:20:16 PM · #7 |
| did you participate in this challenge, Lori, or have you just decided to bash those who did? |
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01/24/2005 03:53:50 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by hopper:
did you participate in this challenge, Lori, or have you just decided to bash those who did? |
LOL I did participate. There are some really great photos that I don't see fitting the challenge. That's not bashing.
Message edited by author 2005-01-24 16:05:04. |
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01/24/2005 03:58:56 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
I posted after having just seen about a dozen very normal tree shots in the Breaking New Ground challenge. |
But if the people who submitted those happen to be dedicated portrait artists, that is "out of the box" for them -- which is what the challenge requested.
There should really be a full gamut of photo types represented, because there's probably someone who hasn't done "that type" of photo before. It's really a Free Study, with people "on their honor" that they're submitting somethng out of their usual style. |
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01/24/2005 04:07:16 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It's really a Free Study, with people "on their honor" that they're submitting somethng out of their usual style. |
I don't wholly agree or disagree. I think if it were a free study than it would have been called Free Study. But I do see what you mean, I was just hoping for more unusual techniques and styles. |
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01/24/2005 04:12:45 PM · #11 |
| How someone envisions a challenge category when they write the description, and how it's actually interpreted by the submitting photographers is often quite different : ) |
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01/24/2005 04:43:58 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
...if the people who submitted those happen to be dedicated portrait artists, that is "out of the box" for them -- which is what the challenge requested. |
If that were the case, it would have been another Something New challenge or "Breaking New Ground for You." I took the challenge to be a dare to come up with something innovative for the site, although the loose wording probably allows for other interpretations. |
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01/24/2005 04:48:18 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
How someone envisions a challenge category when they write the description, and how it's actually interpreted by the submitting photographers is often quite different : ) |
Very, very true...and you know what? That makes it reeeeally hard to vote and justify votes that you give, since we are supposed to keep the spirit of the challenge in mind when voting. I'm with GoldBerry - I wanted to see new techniques and interesting approaches to photography in this challenge, and I did see some of that, but I also saw a lot of 'typical' photographs. Yes, it is possible that this typical photograph is by someone who normally takes a completely different type of photograph, so, technically, it meets the challenge. It just reminds me of when I was in high school a few years back and we all had to come up with posters for our math class (strange, I know). I busted my butt on that damn poster, coming up with something interesting and putting a lot into it's execution, only to have the teacher say "If you did the assignment, you got an A." Well, that just made me feel like I wasted my time. If all I had to do for this challenge was take a decent photograph and then lie about it (the 'Hope' challenge was the worst I've seen for people phoning it in) then I could have saved myself some time and effort.
Of course, the time and effort spent will only serve to make those of us who invest it better in the longrun, and those of us who lie about it better liars. Maybe that's a bit harsh...maybe.
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01/24/2005 04:49:50 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
I find it amusing that so many people think using a completely literal interpretation of a challenge title is 'thinking outside the box'. I feel strongly that it's the exact opposite! Thinking outside the box is being able to take the challenge details and present them in a new and exciting way...and it's really "outside the box" if it's something other people didn't think of.
Anyway, my two cents. |
My photo is a suck too. |
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01/24/2005 04:56:01 PM · #15 |
I'm looking forward to seeing what new and innovative techniques Goldberry and w24x192 came up with for this challenge. It should be very innovative and educational. :)
Clara- could only come up with boring shots for this one. :(
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01/24/2005 04:56:42 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
How someone envisions a challenge category when they write the description, and how it's actually interpreted by the submitting photographers is often quite different : ) |
and in the end it's the voters who hold them accountable. i don't think a portrait artist who shoots a tree in a normal way is honoring the challenge. With that line of thought you could argue any shot, so long as its not the same exact file, is a "unique" shot. Something you could debate philosophically but not relevant for the purposes of a challenge.
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01/24/2005 04:57:05 PM · #17 |
What does schmoting mean? Is that Canadian?
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01/24/2005 04:59:34 PM · #18 |
canadian schmadian, i think it's jewish.
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01/24/2005 04:59:42 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
What does schmoting mean? Is that Canadian? |
I think so...that or yiddish. One thing's for sure, it ain't southern.
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01/24/2005 05:02:08 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
What does schmoting mean? Is that Canadian? |
I think it is as term they used to use in hockey :( |
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01/24/2005 05:03:04 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by w24x192:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
What does schmoting mean? Is that Canadian? |
I think so...that or yiddish. One thing's for sure, it ain't southern. |
You got dat rite.
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01/24/2005 05:04:18 PM · #22 |
It is "pidgen Yiddish" in a take-off on a common idiom among eastern European Jewish immigrants. You basically substitute "sh" or "sch" (sound the same) for the initial consonant of the target word, with the intent of negating or diminishing is.
"Fancy-schmancy" means you're not impressed with the esthetics. It bears a close relationship to the recently-popular term "--not" as in "Oh, I love chopped liver -- NOT!" |
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01/24/2005 05:04:35 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
What does schmoting mean? Is that Canadian? |
Scmote: defn - A Saskatchewan term meaning to paddle your canoe around the schmelly bog without taking notice to the odiferous schmell. When used to judge art, or otherwise, one can schmote the work of whom they have not schmet. This being so, it is proper, in Canada, to scmote when asked or to offer your schmoting to others who will notice.
Hope that helps.
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01/24/2005 05:04:41 PM · #24 |
Can't wait to see your entry.
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01/24/2005 05:09:00 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
What does schmoting mean? Is that Canadian? |
Scmote: defn - A Saskatchewan term meaning to paddle your canoe around the schmelly bog without taking notice to the odiferous schmell. When used to judge art, or otherwise, one can schmote the work of whom they have not schmet. This being so, it is proper, in Canada, to scmote when asked or to offer your schmoting to others who will notice.
Hope that helps. |
I need to start learning this Canadian language. All this time I've just been speaking English ;) |
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