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 03/25/2002 08:30:16 PM · #1
O.K. ALL TOGETHER----- "I SHOT THE PHOTO OF_______________(fill in the blank) IN THE CURRENT CONTEST.
Really, I would rather not know until after the contest.
How about the rest of you?
 03/25/2002 08:47:35 PM · #2
Doesn't knowing really take the fun out of it all? Anonononiminity is half the fun.
 03/25/2002 10:53:58 PM · #3
Does that mean I'll just have to depend on the merit of my photo and I can't solicit higher votes with kind words and compliments?
 03/26/2002 12:54:29 AM · #4
Originally posted by David Ey:
O.K. ALL TOGETHER----- "I SHOT THE PHOTO OF_______________(fill in the blank) IN THE CURRENT CONTEST.
Really, I would rather not know until after the contest.
How about the rest of you?

I'd rather not stifle the conversation just to preserve anomoninitivity. Maybe people can put some warning at the beginning of posts where they tell which photo is theirs? Or maybe you should just be careful while you read the "current challenge" section.
 03/26/2002 05:18:07 AM · #5
Do you want it to be a photo contest --------
or a personality contest? I don't think you can have it both ways.
 03/26/2002 08:24:37 AM · #6
Originally posted by David Ey:
O.K. ALL TOGETHER----- "I SHOT THE PHOTO OF_______________(fill in the blank) IN THE CURRENT CONTEST.
Really, I would rather not know until after the contest.
How about the rest of you?

i agree with david ey. i would suggest the site moderators might want to disqualify anyone who gives this info away on one of the forums here during the voting period.
 03/26/2002 09:03:41 AM · #7
Sorry..... my lips are sealed from now on.

Have a nice day :-)
 03/26/2002 09:16:40 AM · #8
Mine too! Although I don't think it made any difference in the votes.
 03/26/2002 10:32:04 AM · #9
Oh Ladies, I ment nothing personal. It was just an observation.
Please forgive me. David Ey
 03/26/2002 10:49:27 AM · #10
Don't sweat it. It wouldn't even be so bad if I got disqualified. After all, it's only a picture.
 03/26/2002 12:22:29 PM · #11
OH NO, Please dont let that happen!
 03/27/2002 10:12:46 AM · #12
I agree that non disclosure would be best for fair judging,however,since it is not possiple to respond to any comments until after the judging,one might feel the need to defend their picture in the forums. I like getting comments on my picture and probably should reply to all of them, but then I get all involved in the next challenge and don't respond at all.
03/27/2002 12:04:21 PM · #13
I've been responding to comments if they show an email address. Nothing to defend my picture. Just a polite "thank you" or some random silliness depending on my mood. I was doing it as I got them so I wouldn't forget anyone. I guess I better put a stop to that and wait until after. No more thank ya messages from me. Nope. None. Not a one. :) I was just thrilled when someone took the time to comment or offer a tip. That newbie high, "omg - someone looked at my picture" followed by 15 minutes of blushing, will fade someday. :)
 03/27/2002 12:18:15 PM · #14
I don't think that the initial complaint was about private e-mail sent to people making comments on your picture... I assume that if someone's already commented on something that they've also voted on it (or how would the comment stick?) so at that point I think it should be fair game to write an e-mail. I like responses to my comments almost as much as someone commenting on my picture! Stifling *private* communication isn't going to help anyone grow as a photographer, or us grow as a community.

Then again, I'm not so bothered by people discussing their pictures in the forums... I don't mind giving people I like a low vote if their picture sucks. ;) But I can see how it would worry other people, and it really should be kept to a minimum. Let's please not disqualify people, though... there's already enough voters giving undeserved 1s as it is! That's punishment enough!
 03/27/2002 01:34:32 PM · #15
Originally posted by David Ey:
Do you want it to be a photo contest --------
or a personality contest? I don't think you can have it both ways.


You don't give the other users much credit, do you? I think most of us are mature enough to vote for photographs and not photographers.

I do understand what you are saying, though. If photographer names appeared next to the photographs during voting, people would subconsciously rate photos from good photographers higher than they deserve. However, it is different when one or two people start some discussion in the forum about their photo. There is a large psychological separation there.

In the end, I do tend to agree with you. People should try to refrain from revealing their photo in the forums during voting. If they need to talk about their photo, they should try to email those who left comments. Otherwise, they should try to hold back until voting is over to discuss it.

Langdon, drewmedia, I understand that anonymous postings are not an option in the forums by design, but this is a good case where it would be useful. At least in the "Current Challenge" forum.
 03/27/2002 01:36:36 PM · #16
I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just went back and looked at the scores for some of the top pictures in the last challenge and also the scores for my submission and I agree that there seem to be a lot of undeserved one being pased out. Is there or could there be a way to determine if someone is really being objective or intentionally scoring people down?
03/27/2002 03:07:41 PM · #17
I believe the admins have some sort of monitoring system in place that looks for suspicious voting patterns.
 03/27/2002 03:10:58 PM · #18
I joined somewhere between macro and the red challenges. I spent a lot of time looking at the pictures, comments etc. and not directly joining in. I got the feeling people were judging areas they shouldn't. I saw a lot of comments like "this is not a macro" and wondered if people were giving a photo a low score if they didn't believe it or if it fell outside their abilities. I wonder if the group of ones the current winning photo got was because some people thought it had to have been enhanced. TrickyBudda mentioned getting comments about his picture not being taken at night.

Is it up to the voter to second-guess an entry?
 03/27/2002 03:35:35 PM · #19
First,let me say that these guys developing this site don't need my help. They are doing an excellent job. But,critisizing engineers is my business and I must practice from time to time.

By reading the responses it appears most of you were pissed at first but generally agreed it is better not to know the photographer until after the vote. I think it makes the contest more fun. I appreciate EVERY response I receive,even the totally negetive ones and I have no problem with anyone discussing their pic with another member on a one to one basis. I am a newbee and need all the help I can get. You can find my email with my profile.

For you who found the nosehair a disgust, it was a statement, as many photos are. Before that challenge I wrote that sometimes a thumbnail was all that need be viewed. You disagreed. How do you feel now?
I do agree with you though. They all do deserve a closer look. Maybe I should send a photo of me with tongue-in-cheek. Hey, use guys all wanted the forums more active. DO YOUR PART.

Thanks guys for creating such a great website. I hope you have fun and make a lot of money. David Ey


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 03/27/2002 05:02:20 PM · #20
Yeah, I bet there's a way to parlay this site into some phat bank! Can you say sponsorship? I knew you could.
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