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08/19/2002 02:43:28 PM · #1
My outakes
for the pencil challenge. Any comments are welcome.



I liked this one the most, just for the '2'

08/19/2002 03:08:35 PM · #2
better than mine... I might as well post my outtakes, since I probably WILL get DEAD LAST....

I thought creativity was a bonus, obviously ABSTACT photos are not well liked by the average joe. dam...


* This message has been edited by the author on 8/19/2002 3:07:52 PM.
08/19/2002 03:28:30 PM · #3
Gordon-i like that pic. something about it catches my eye. I would prob give it a 6 or 7 if i saw it in the chalange.
08/19/2002 03:44:53 PM · #4
Gordon, I'm a sucker for strong lines and geometric shapes... I would have voted it high... 8, possibly a 9 considering it would not have been sized so small...

cq ~ The etiquette issue aside... You're right... I doubt abstract will ever do well in an open forum... These are the kinds of shots that only artists, and rich patrons of the arts that want to think of themselves as artists, can love... Personnally, this stuff is over my head... I've seen abstracts that I like but I have to admit that most of it is lost on me...

On a related note, can anyone point me at (URL) an abstract photographer that is well respected? Maybe if I check out her/his work I can develope an appreciation for abstract...
08/19/2002 04:01:47 PM · #5
cd107, I like the last one a lot.I would have liked taking it and put it in my modest personal portfolio!

08/19/2002 04:04:56 PM · #6
Originally posted by cq107:
better than mine... I might as well post my outtakes, since I probably WILL get DEAD LAST....


I have no problem with posting of outtakes during the challenge week, but please try to avoid posting outtakes that reveal your entry before the voting is over. There are many users who will vote down users who reveal their own photos.

Thanks,
Terry
08/19/2002 04:07:37 PM · #7
Originally posted by lionelm:
cd107, I like the last one a lot.I would have liked taking it and put it in my modest personal portfolio!


thanks, thats the one my mom liked best too...

08/19/2002 04:08:53 PM · #8
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by cq107:
[i]better than mine... I might as well post my outtakes, since I probably WILL get DEAD LAST....


I have no problem with posting of outtakes during the challenge week, but please try to avoid posting outtakes that reveal your entry before the voting is over. There are many users who will vote down users who reveal their own photos.

Thanks,
Terry
[/i]


Yup, the ones I've posted have nothing much in common with the
one I entered. Well, aside from subject matter... Maybe people
will be able to tell mine because there is a No.2 yellow pencil
in it.....



* This message has been edited by the author on 8/19/2002 4:08:13 PM.
08/19/2002 04:11:35 PM · #9
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
Yup, the ones I've posted have nothing much in common with the
one I entered. Well, aside from subject matter... Maybe people
will be able to tell mine because there is a No.2 yellow pencil
in it.....


Ok, sorry. Your outtakes led me to believe your entry was a different photo than it apparently is. Your first two outtakes look similar to another photo in the challenge.

Sorry for any confusion.

-Terry
08/19/2002 04:15:11 PM · #10
ANd you know what I like a lot in it, in addition to the abstractino ? I am am not sure I will find the right words but .... it looks like blurry and not blurry at the same time, and I like the whity/shiny/white silvery colors ....
So .. print that one in your portfolio and .. if you do not have a color printer ?.. check the epson 820s, I just bought it and I am very impressed by the quality on premium glossy paper. I have some 1024x768 shots taken with my canon s30 that looks really great at 8x10 .
08/19/2002 04:16:04 PM · #11
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Sorry for any confusion.

-Terry


Actually the confusion goes on :) Gordon only posted one shot... I think you were thinking of CQ's post...

And Gordon... So YOUR the one with the Number 2 yellow pencil! I thought that was your work :)
08/19/2002 04:19:05 PM · #12
Originally posted by myqyl:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
[i]Sorry for any confusion.

-Terry


Actually the confusion goes on :) Gordon only posted one shot... I think you were thinking of CQ's post...

And Gordon... So YOUR the one with the Number 2 yellow pencil! I thought that was your work :)[/i]

Yeah, I was posting to cq107 (and also as a general reminder to everyone). I didn't notice it was Gordon that had replied to me.

-Terry
08/19/2002 04:19:37 PM · #13
Originally posted by myqyl:
Gordon, I'm a sucker for strong lines and geometric shapes... I would have voted it high... 8, possibly a 9 considering it would not have been sized so small...

cq ~ The etiquette issue aside... You're right... I doubt abstract will ever do well in an open forum... These are the kinds of shots that only artists, and rich patrons of the arts that want to think of themselves as artists, can love... Personnally, this stuff is over my head... I've seen abstracts that I like but I have to admit that most of it is lost on me...

On a related note, can anyone point me at (URL) an abstract photographer that is well respected? Maybe if I check out her/his work I can develope an appreciation for abstract...


Here are just a few of my favorites.

Daveid Mendelsohn

Freeman patterson

Some INCREDIBLE nudes! Palinchak Mikhail

Some wonderful nude, abstract and commercial work by Robert Farber

A really abstract nude photographer is Robert Gregory Griffeth But be careful..this is very intense in media rich content..but truly remarkable work.

I have more links than I can list. I really need to start a web site just to point folks around the internet.


* This message has been edited by the author on 8/19/2002 4:24:27 PM.
08/19/2002 04:23:47 PM · #14
Originally posted by hokie:
Originally posted by myqyl:
[i]Gordon, I'm a sucker for strong lines and geometric shapes... I would have voted it high... 8, possibly a 9 considering it would not have been sized so small...

cq ~ The etiquette issue aside... You're right... I doubt abstract will ever do well in an open forum... These are the kinds of shots that only artists, and rich patrons of the arts that want to think of themselves as artists, can love... Personnally, this stuff is over my head... I've seen abstracts that I like but I have to admit that most of it is lost on me...

On a related note, can anyone point me at (URL) an abstract photographer that is well respected? Maybe if I check out her/his work I can develope an appreciation for abstract...


Here are just a few of my favorites.

Daveid Mendelsohn

Freeman patterson

Some INCREDIBLE nudes! Palinchak Mikhail

Some wonderful nude, abstract and commercial work by Robert Farber

A really abstract nude photographer is Robert Gregory But be careful..this is very intense in media rich content..but truly remakalbe work.

I have more links than I can list. I really need to start a web site just to pont folks around the internet.
[/i]

I can see the advertising campaign now - "Do you Hokie!"


I've always liked Bodyscapes

for interesting, funny nudes. I wonder how well one of those
would go here, with a pencil involved....
08/19/2002 04:29:33 PM · #15
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:

I can see the advertising campaign now - "Do you Hokie!"


I've always liked Bodyscapes

for interesting, funny nudes. I wonder how well one of those
would go here, with a pencil involved....



That is a great site! Thanks...

I am so LAZY!!! I have a million and one reasons to make a web site but it would be so weird.

I would send these nice people looking for persian cats there to view my latest kittens and they would see all these bizarre nude website links. I could see the looks I get at the next cat show!!!
08/19/2002 04:32:15 PM · #16
Originally posted by hokie:
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
[i]
I can see the advertising campaign now - "Do you Hokie!"


I've always liked Bodyscapes

for interesting, funny nudes. I wonder how well one of those
would go here, with a pencil involved....



That is a great site! Thanks...

I am so LAZY!!! I have a million and one reasons to make a web site but it would be so weird.

I would send these nice people looking for persian cats there to view my latest kittens and they would see all these bizarre nude website links. I could see the looks I get at the next cat show!!!
[/i]

< insert far far too obvious joke here >
08/19/2002 04:36:57 PM · #17
Originally posted by hokie:
I am so LAZY!!! I have a million and one reasons to make a web site but it would be so weird.

I would send these nice people looking for persian cats there to view my latest kittens and they would see all these bizarre nude website links. I could see the looks I get at the next cat show!!!


Wait a minute... isn't kitty porn illegal?

-Terry
08/19/2002 04:44:51 PM · #18
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by hokie:
[i]I am so LAZY!!! I have a million and one reasons to make a web site but it would be so weird.

I would send these nice people looking for persian cats there to view my latest kittens and they would see all these bizarre nude website links. I could see the looks I get at the next cat show!!!


Wait a minute... isn't kitty porn illegal?

-Terry
[/i]


Please..I am BEGGING you guys...quit with the porn stuff..I am going to get into so much trouble on this thread. >:-D

I have no self control..............
08/19/2002 04:49:21 PM · #19
Originally posted by hokie:
Please..I am BEGGING you guys...quit with the porn stuff..I am going to get into so much trouble on this thread. >:-D

I have no self control..............


Sorry... we can barely control ourselves either.

-Terry
08/19/2002 05:28:09 PM · #20
I spent most of the day looking through these links and if this is what abstract is, then I like it... But I don't see the link to what folks here say is being marked low because it's 'abstract'... The stuff Hokie and Gordon pointed me to were great photos that I think would have wiped the floor with all of us...

Is 'abstract' too abstract a term? I was expecting to see a lot of nondistinct, blurry shots of things I couldn't begin to identify... What exactly is 'abstract'?

ps ~ Sorry to haul this thread so far afield :)
08/19/2002 05:31:03 PM · #21
Originally posted by myqyl:
I spent most of the day looking through these links and if this is what abstract is, then I like it... But I don't see the link to what folks here say is being marked low because it's 'abstract'... The stuff Hokie and Gordon pointed me to were great photos that I think would have wiped the floor with all of us...

Is 'abstract' too abstract a term? I was expecting to see a lot of nondistinct, blurry shots of things I couldn't begin to identify... What exactly is 'abstract'?

ps ~ Sorry to haul this thread so far afield :)


Here is an intro :

Abstract art

The definition up front might be a useful one to work with.

Some times nondistinct, blurry shots are just that. Just because it
looks bad doesn't automatically make it 'difficult art' that people
don't get...
08/19/2002 06:37:48 PM · #22
outtake
critiques? Please?
ignore the fact that i rotated slightly...found out thats illegal and would have fixed it.
08/19/2002 06:51:35 PM · #23
Gordon
I really like it, mostly for the shadows on the rubbers (or erasers since I know rubbers means something different in the US;)

CQ
Of the 2 I like the 2nd much better. Though I often like abstract, these aren't that appealing to me, as I am not sure that the blurs add that much to it. But I do like the grainy texture of the blurs.

TerryGee
I like it very much. To be picky, I'd like it better with a colander without a long handle, so the whole thing was in shot, or even the one you've used but in shot. I just find the handle leads me out of the shot too much. Love the loose arrangement of the pasta.. ahem... pencils!

:)
08/19/2002 07:39:39 PM · #24
Here's one of mine. I had in mind the idea of doing a stopped motion but I chose a bad location for light so I couldn't get the stopped motion as sharp as I wanted. On top of that it took about a bazillion shots to get just one with the pencil in a nice place.

08/19/2002 07:54:10 PM · #25
Originally posted by TerryGee:
outtake
critiques? Please?
ignore the fact that i rotated slightly...found out thats illegal and would have fixed it.


Hey Terry..

I like it. The colors and jumbled nature of the shot do more for me than any other element.

I know from my own experience how hard it is to get a set up shot to look sorta random. My own "Coupon Tree" could have benefitted from a more random feel to the leaves.

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