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03/10/2003 11:03:56 PM · #1
I am going to purchase a Canon G3 and was wondering if anyone could make a
recommendation for lenses and filters to use while photographing a minor
league baseball team while both on the field and in the locker room.
03/11/2003 01:18:50 PM · #2
Hi Kylemcdermott
You will love the G3,I would get to know the camera first before getting any filters and lenses.Good Luck
04/19/2003 10:45:09 PM · #3
I just bought a G3 as well and went through the old forums to find out about filters and was so happy to see this thread only to find redfig's non-answer :) So, i looked some more here at the forums and found this recommendation for filters and adapters: //www.camerafilters.com/

Redfig, i understand what you are saying. However, I do want a UV filter asap to protect the lens and since i'm getting that one i might just as well add a circular polarizer to the purchase which i KNOW i will be using. And of course, the adaptor. Camerafilters.com list the adaptor tube for $12-$15 and i had seen that listed at lensmate for at least $30, if i recall correctly. Is there something fishy here?

Promise though that i will wait with ND filters and macro rings until i know the camera a little ;)

Any suggestions for flash lights? Won't buy it right away but fairly soon if prices are not outrageous.



04/19/2003 10:56:41 PM · #4
You moved from Sony To Canon? :) traitor :)



Originally posted by Journey:

I just bought a G3 as well and went through the old forums to find out about filters and was so happy to see this thread only to find redfig's non-answer :) So, i looked some more here at the forums and found this recommendation for filters and adapters: //www.camerafilters.com/

Redfig, i understand what you are saying. However, I do want a UV filter asap to protect the lens and since i'm getting that one i might just as well add a circular polarizer to the purchase which i KNOW i will be using. And of course, the adaptor. Camerafilters.com list the adaptor tube for $12-$15 and i had seen that listed at lensmate for at least $30, if i recall correctly. Is there something fishy here?

Promise though that i will wait with ND filters and macro rings until i know the camera a little ;)

Any suggestions for flash lights? Won't buy it right away but fairly soon if prices are not outrageous.
04/20/2003 12:04:19 AM · #5
Darn, only non-answers in this thread! Hey, paganini, you ought to be able to respond to my previous post here. The reason i am nervous about it is that i read about Natalie breaking her new nikon coolpix while trying to take the adaptor off her camera. I want to avoid that at all cost! Also, does the adaptor and UV filter stay on all the time? (nervous)

Btw, congrats on the 10D - a very fine camera indeed. I had pretty much lost interest in photography this winter as i needed a new camera and didn't know what to buy. I did perk up when the 10D came out and was even thinking about buying one and returned to dpc to read about it. Then this week i read Joebar's comment about the lens addiction that you acquire with dslrs and that was the clincher for me. So, i checked up on the price of the G3, couldn't believe how much they had come down in price, made a lot of comparisons with the Sony DSC F717 and settled for the G3. In the next year or two i will figure out how much of a commitment i really have towards photography and if enough will go for a 10D or its successor then. It probably would have made me very unhappy if i had bought one now (besides being a constant drain on the wallet). Since Joebar saved me so much money i feel i can now splurge a little on accessories ;)

Yeah, well, i am actually having a very boring weekend. I was more than anxious to rid myself of the Mavica under my profile :) and financially i am the owner of the G3 but physically it is still en route. So, i have spent it thus far by deep cleaning my house (won't have time for it in the next umpteen months :), checked out FIVE books on photography from the library, made a dumb list of subjects i am going to take pictures off once i get the G3 :) and read the hardware forums of all the months i haven't been here. Yawn
04/20/2003 01:02:56 AM · #6
To answer your question:

On my G2 I use Lensmate adaptor. You can choose on the G3 for 52 mm or 58 mm front threads, which allow you to put two different ttypes of filter. If you want to add a wide convferter, etc. then the 58 mm is what Canon sells. G3 has a bayonet mount and you won't have to worry about breaking the camera when you change the adaptor, unless you drop the camera :)

You don't need a ND filter for G3, it comes with one inside the lens, a real handy feature!

Image wise, not much different from G3. The lens is still not "L" :) for obvious reasons. However, the barrel distortion seems to be less than my G2 after looking at my friend's G3, which is a big plus as G2 is notoriously evil with barrel distortion at wide angle.

You'll like the camera, but i'ts not a camera for action shots. The focus is slow too.

10D is nice... can't comment on how much nicer it is :) it's in a different place. Plenty of lenses that are affordable too. Primes are obviously the most affordable but it's not as convenient as zooms. but you do have to spend more time afterwards to get the images you want via PS, as the Canon default converter is not that great. Biggest advantages: fast autofocus (with fast lenses) with focus modes that tracks moving targets nicely, low noise sensor, Adobe color space, true long exposures, INTERCHANGEABLE lenses.
04/20/2003 03:32:16 AM · #7
Hey Journey!

I'm the proud owner of a new Canon G3 as well.

I got mine last wedensday and I've been enjoying it quite a bit!
I went and purchased the Canon Telephoto extension off ebay for a tad over $100 and I'm very pleased with the results. While the price on the Canon telephoto extension isn't as good as the Digital Optics extensions, it has a few well thought out features - it comes with a lens bag that will accomadate the lens and the conversion adapter and the plastic lens cover for the camera side of the lens fits nicely on the adapter as well. It the little things like this that impress me.

I also purchased a small set of 52mm filters from a local photography store (UV, Circular Polarizer, Red filter) and am getting all creative with their uses.

Hope this answers some more of your questions!

-Matt
04/20/2003 12:13:32 PM · #8
paganini & mbardeen: thanks very much for the info.

I just talked with the vendor to correct the shipping address on the order which showed WV (West Virginia!) instead of WA :) I added the adaptor and a set of 3 filters to the order since he offered me a fair price on it.
The vendor also suggested (of course) a special special for a Service Plan. $ 79 for 3 years;$ 99 for 5 years. I have to make up my mind about that TODAY since the camera will ship tomorrow morning. Normally i decline these sorts of protections but i recall endless forums on service plans as well. Suggestions?

You have some G3 pictures to show us, mbardeen? :)
04/26/2003 11:34:58 AM · #9
Ok, if there is one thing I have learned from using my SLR (Nikon N65) is to always have a UV filter on and one or two spares. I have gone through 5 UV filters in the last 5 years. Some may say that I am hard on my cameras, but it is a lot cheaper to replace a $25 filter than a $1500 lens. Scratches, cracks, all kinds of things can happen to a lens or filter.

My advice, personally, is to get the adapter ring and a UV filter. find out how you are going to mos use the camera, and then go back and buy the other filters and lenses. If you are going to do a lot of daytime shots, a polarizer is essential. I am lucky enough that all my filters from my SLR will work with the adapter ring for my G3 (I bought this week, adapter ring I pick up on Monday.)

My $.02 worth of information...
04/27/2003 02:28:35 PM · #10
Question about the circular polarizer.

Yesterday i tried out the polarizer for the first time and ended up with a batch of pictures with washed out skies - otherwise those pictures would have been ok.

So, this morning i took some test sky shots with the UV and the polarizer. The sky for which i used the polarizer does indeed look better. However, when making the shot i did not see any difference on the lcd screen no matter how i turned the polarizer. Aren't you supposed to see that?
05/02/2003 02:56:47 PM · #11
Well, I have gotten the adapter ring, a UV filter, a circular polarizer filter, and a negative density filter. I am renting for the week (most likely to buy) the Telephoto lens. I have been shooting with the polarizer and gotten some wonderfull shots.

I do not see the difference in the lcd, but I DO see the difference on the computer. Just keep working on it.

BTW, I uploaded an image for the Glass challenge I shot last night. I used the Telephoto lens, UV and Polarizer IN MACRO mode to shoot from inside my car through the sunroof in the middle of a rain shower. very interesting effect.
05/02/2003 03:13:14 PM · #12
Originally posted by Journey:

Question about the circular polarizer.

Yesterday i tried out the polarizer for the first time and ended up with a batch of pictures with washed out skies - otherwise those pictures would have been ok.

So, this morning i took some test sky shots with the UV and the polarizer. The sky for which i used the polarizer does indeed look better. However, when making the shot i did not see any difference on the lcd screen no matter how i turned the polarizer. Aren't you supposed to see that?


The polariser has the most effect on the sky at an angle of about 90 degrees to the sun. If you point there and turn the lens you should see some difference, although if the camera is not in M mode, it will keep changing the exposure to compensate for the polariser effect, making it
quite hard to see the changes. (the polariser tends to make the scene
darker - varying between about 0 and 3 stops, but the camera will increase the exposure to compensate) The picture will be more saturated, but it is probably too subtle to see on the LCD, especially if you are out in bright sunlight.

The other way to see the effect is to point at a glass window or pool,
that has a lot of reflection. If you are at a shallow angle (about 35 degrees or so ) you should see a pretty large change as you rotate the lens, effectively letting you shoot through the reflections/ water surface
etc.
05/02/2003 04:04:03 PM · #13
Thanks, Gordon. My first week with the g3 has been one of enormous mood swings (from excited to depressed) but things are starting to make sense.

This week i really, really think i guessed your picture so i'll be curious to find out tues. Also guessed the one of the 'other guy in town' but he left a clue. :)
05/14/2003 12:50:17 AM · #14
Hi Helene

I think it has taken me about 6 months and about 1500 shots to start to know my G3. I love it now... It is not a point and shoot camera, I actually am grateful for that now.. but getting used to this can be tricky at first!! You really have to think about what you and the camera are doing when you take the shots.

Stick with it you will love it in the end!!
Brent
05/14/2003 01:08:59 AM · #15
Hi Brent !

I was sort of embarrassed that you had rekindled this thread because it has a number of my posts showing my complete ignorance of 2-3 weeks ago. One of the biggest adjustments i probably had to make was to overcome my Mavica habits.

In these 2-3 weeks i have taken lots and lots of test shots in various situations and light situations. Am getting to know this camera and i really love it :) The results improved vastly once i started to rely much more and more often on a tripod (also shooting more now very early morning). Still a long road ahead but it's a fun road to travel :)
05/14/2003 01:19:26 AM · #16
The affect you see with the polarizer is best illustrated when looking at a puddle of water. As you turn it the LCD screen goes from showing what is under the water to the reflection in the water.

To gain a few stops in very bright light don't forget the G3's built in ND 3 filter. It's especially good when you want to photograph running water in bright light and need a slower shutter speed.

My $0.02.
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