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08/18/2002 06:29:20 PM · #1
As usual, I'm having difficulty with selecting my photo for submission and was wondering if anyone has thoughts on a photo's initial impact (the wow factor) vs whether you might like the photo after repeated viewing over time?

This week I have a pencil photo that initially seems very intense, with loud contrasting colors and lines. After I look at this photo for awhile, I really don't like it.

On the flip-side, I have an understated photo that probably will not do as well on this site. I have to really stare at this photo to appreciate the composition, and other aspects. It would be easy to miss these details, as the photo doesn't have the same initial impact. I'm going to submit this understated photo for the pencil challenge, as I really think it's a more interesting composition.

I've noticed a similar thing with music: in the past when I've heard a piece of music that grabs me immediately, very often I will grow tired of the music quickly. There won't be enough depth to hold my interest. Other music may take repeated listening before I start to understand the structure and depth of the composition. Very often this music will grow on me, and become favorite music that I will then listen to for years.

Any thoughts?
08/18/2002 06:30:28 PM · #2
Originally posted by LanSnake:

Any thoughts?


perhaps ideally a great photograph requires both ?

08/18/2002 06:37:36 PM · #3
I didn't know how to answer this question until your excellent music analogy. I'd definitely go with the understated, quality shot. I know some of my favorite bands I didn't even blink when I first heard them -- quality will always be noticed, even if in the long-run.

Drew
08/18/2002 06:37:38 PM · #4
I'd submit the high impact one here and keep the other for yourself.

John
08/18/2002 07:19:41 PM · #5
Originally posted by drewmedia:
I didn't know how to answer this question until your excellent music analogy. I'd definitely go with the understated, quality shot. I know some of my favorite bands I didn't even blink when I first heard them -- quality will always be noticed, even if in the long-run.

Drew


True. So does this mean that the winners here are the photographic
equivalent of Britney Spears ? All glitz and no substance ?

It is hard not to fall into this catagory I guess, as each picture is
not getting a whole lot of thought before voting
08/18/2002 07:25:41 PM · #6
I can point to several Britneys on the site, but I can point to just as many Beatles. I think you hit it best with your statement that a great photograph requires both. First one that comes to mind is dequinix's winner last week. When I saw it the first time, I said, "Damn." I see it today, and I say, "Damn."

Drew
08/18/2002 07:34:26 PM · #7
Gordon -- I think you may be right, that a great photo has both the initial appeal, and also qualities that are only noticed after repeated viewings and thought. Many of the winners on DPChallenge have both the initial wow, and longer lasting qualities together.

One thing I've been noticing though, the voting tends to move the top ten or so photos to the top of the heap but the middle tier (20th to 100th or so) is often not ordered as well (of course, in my opinion!). I guess there's no way to avoid this with the quantity of submissions each week and limited amount of time each person has for voting.
08/18/2002 10:55:26 PM · #8
I'd say go with the Quality photo based on my personal voting style.

I tend to browse through all photo thumbnails and some full views before scoring any of them, and then go through on the large view one by one looking closer at the detail. I like to do this early in the week and later in the week I revisit my marks. I tend to be a tough grader, so often when I revisit the photos I mark up the ones that stuck with me during the week.
08/19/2002 12:00:12 AM · #9
Well, I unsubmitted... submitted. Unsubmitted... submitted, unsub, sub, unsub, and sub again. Still not happy - but, there it is.
I think it's gonna get slammed! ;-)
Thanks for suggesting "Pencil", however. The simple subject made me concentrate on other technical aspects of the photo. Not sure I succeeded in doing it well, but I learned more about my camera in the process.
Ooops! 12:00 AM! Gotta go check the submissions!
Good luck, everyone!
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