B&W II Disqualification - DPChallenge Forums

11/19/2004 08:52:18 AM · #1

A photo in the B&W II challenge has been disqualified for EXIF falsification, and the user responsible has been suspended from DPC for 45 days. Cheating is not tolerated on this site, and will be acted upon.

11/19/2004 08:57:15 AM · #2

glad ya'll are on top of things. does suspended mean they can't log in, or just that they can't submit?

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

11/19/2004 09:03:15 AM · #3

The user will not be able to log in using their username, and thus will only be able to browse the site as a guest. Of course, we also monitor for multiple accounts, so we will prevent any new users being created by this user.

Gringo

Nikon D2X

11/19/2004 09:03:22 AM · #4

Why only 45 days Manic? If this was an all out attempt to falsify the EXIF I don't see where this could have been an oversight like forgetting to change the date or something. If it is clearly a cheater, why will they be allowed to come back at all?

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

11/19/2004 09:04:34 AM · #5

Originally posted by Gringo:

Why only 45 days Manic?

This was a first offence - we will only ban a user if they come back after the suspension and reoffend. This way, they have a chance to mend their ways...

Gringo

Nikon D2X

11/19/2004 09:11:57 AM · #6

Originally posted by Manic:

Originally posted by Gringo:
Why only 45 days Manic?

This was a first offence - we will only ban a user if they come back after the suspension and reoffend. This way, they have a chance to mend their ways...

Let's hope they don't just mend the way they alter the EXIF. I wish I were a more forgiving person when it comes to things like this.... But, it takes me a little longer I'm afraid. I guess everyone deserves a second chance.

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

11/19/2004 09:16:30 AM · #7

Are we allowed to know who it was? (Or which image was DQ'd)?

Message edited by author 2004-11-19 09:16:57.

colda

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

11/19/2004 09:17:52 AM · #8

I'd like to know which one it was, I think it was one of my 9's

Olympus 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 M.Zuiko Digital

11/19/2004 09:22:24 AM · #9

The image in question was called 'Barn'. I don't think it'd be fair to identify the user - if the user comes back after the suspension and identifies themself, that's their choice.

vince31874

11/19/2004 09:23:26 AM · #10

Originally posted by Manic:

Can't the person just make a phantom email address?

redmoon

Olympus PEN E-PL2

11/19/2004 09:23:38 AM · #11

oooh, this is so meaty! come on, 'fess up, who was it? was it one of the SC?? ;) was it a paid member? are all his / her / its other submissions going to be investigated? he doesn't have any ribbons does he? where does he live? let's linch the dirty bugger!

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro for Canon

11/19/2004 09:24:37 AM · #12

Originally posted by vince31874:

Can't the person just make a phantom email address?

The user would have to connect from the same IP (or IP range), and we monitor this data for multiple accounts - if two users come from the same IP (without good reason, eg office NAT'd firewall), then the admins can act upon it.

Blackdog

Canon EOS-20D

11/19/2004 09:28:38 AM · #13

So, you can tell if I'm connecting from work or from home.....Don't tell my boss!!!

hokie99cpe

Canon EOS-20D

11/19/2004 09:40:43 AM · #14

Originally posted by Manic:

Unfortunately, if the user is willing to falsify EXIF, s/he is probably also willing to do what is necessary to bypass such measures designed to block multiple accounts... and there's not too much that can be done about it. Only question is whether they have the desire to bypass those controls. And, now, also unfortunately, they know what controls are in place and could, if they wanted, take the steps to bypass them. But, hey, maybe that's just my paranoid side sneaking out.......

-Dan

Message edited by author 2004-11-19 09:41:53.

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS for Canon

11/19/2004 09:47:52 AM · #15

Originally posted by hokie99cpe:

Unfortunately, if the user is willing to falsify EXIF, s/he is probably also willing to do what is necessary to bypass such measures designed to block multiple accounts...

the answer to this would be to put their account, unnamed, in a purgatory so that some of the trained eyes around here could be on the lookout for the type of images the offender used to submit...and, some of the forum hounds could also keep an eye out for forum contributions that match their "fingerprints"...

Moose101

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

11/19/2004 09:56:18 AM · #16

Curious, if the user was Disqualified do you also pull all his votes and comments from the challenge?

I'm just wondering because I had a great comment and a nice HIGH vote and last night it disappeared to my surprise.

But if that's the case, I would rather have the vote/comment pulled anyways.

Great work finding this among 640 entries, it take going to take me a week just to vote on this challenge. But to examine the info on top of that would take a year ;-)

Originally posted by Blackdog:

So, you can tell if I'm connecting from work or from home.....Don't tell my boss!!!

We better send our money into DPC so they don't send any reports to the boss ;-) My 10 bucks is on its way ... don't tell my BOSS ;-)

redmoon

Olympus PEN E-PL2

Olympus 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 M.Zuiko Digital

11/19/2004 10:01:43 AM · #17

Originally posted by skiprow:

sounds a bit like (mccarthys?) america in the fifties and sixties - true, "you EXIF fabricator!" has a less dramatic quality than "communist!", but it's the same principal. anyway, we all know cheats have no artistic skill whatsoever. "Barn"? Bor-ring!

hokie99cpe

Canon EOS-20D

11/19/2004 10:04:43 AM · #18

Originally posted by Blackdog:

So, you can tell if I'm connecting from work or from home.....Don't tell my boss!!!

I love the fact that my boss can't tell what sites I frequent.......

Originally posted by redmoon:

sounds a bit like (mccarthys?) america in the fifties and sixties

[sarcasm]And the problems is?[/sarcasm]

-Dan

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

11/19/2004 10:07:25 AM · #19

Originally posted by redmoon:

Originally posted by skiprow:

the answer to this would be to put their account, unnamed, in a purgatory so that some of the trained eyes around here could be on the lookout for the type of images the offender used to submit...and, some of the forum hounds could also keep an eye out for forum contributions that match their "fingerprints"...

sounds a bit like (mccarthys?) america in the fifties and sixties - true, "you EXIF fabricator!" has a less dramatic quality than "communist!", but it's the same principal. anyway, we all know cheats have no artistic skill whatsoever. "Barn"? Bor-ring!

i know, i know...lol...but this site needs as much help as it can get to keep the focus off actually taking photographs

GoldBerry

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

11/19/2004 10:10:33 AM · #20

Wow, was the picture of Weapons of Mass Destruction or something? Cause sounds like the FBI was called in ;-)

hehehehhe

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

11/19/2004 10:27:49 AM · #21

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Wow, was the picture of Weapons of Mass Destruction or something? Cause sounds like the FBI was called in ;-)

hehehehhe

Funny--last night I was thinking of proposing a "Weapons of Mass Destruction" challenge topic. Maybe we could find them for the gov. (But most people would just post pics of their children and pets ;)

Marjo

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

11/19/2004 11:17:18 AM · #22

Originally posted by redmoon:

"Barn"? Bor-ring!

Hey. I like barns

and no...it wasn't me. It's very unfortunate that someone would go to such measures for a photo challenge.
Now, about bor-ring....what's a thumbtack rate? Higher than a pocketwatch, I guess. :D

EddyG

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

11/19/2004 11:58:37 AM · #23

Originally posted by Moose101:

No, their votes and comments are not removed, just their image.

Somebody went through last night and removed all of their comments from the active challenges because they received some PM's after they commented. Your missing comment is likely related to that; there are threads talking about the "incident" and an opinion poll has been put up for everyone to vote on.

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

11/19/2004 12:31:05 PM · #24

Originally posted by redmoon:

sounds a bit like (mccarthys?) america in the fifties and sixties - true, "you EXIF fabricator!" has a less dramatic quality than "communist!" ...

Just to clarify, I believe you are refering to Senator Joseph McCarthy from Wisconsin, a harshly anti-Comunist inquisitor and accuser who should be associated with the 50's only, not the 60's; as opposed to Senator Eugene McCarthy from Minnesota who ran for President in 1968 losing to Richard Nixon (who was coincidently a sort of mentor, or role model, for Joe, having cut his political teeth by nailing Soviet spy Alger Hess while serving on the infamous House Un-American Activities Committee).