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05/08/2023 12:41:12 AM · #1
Wonder if your images are training AI? You can check them here:

Check Your Images
05/08/2023 12:45:45 AM · #2
Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

Wonder if your images are training AI? You can check them here:

Check Your Images


don't lose your time checking that. AI was trained on 5 Billion images. Better jump in the boat as the future of many photographers are doomed. A combination of AI, photography and photo editing is the future.
05/08/2023 12:47:45 AM · #3
Meatbags are going to be obsolete soon anyway. Every other sci fi movie warns us of this future.
05/08/2023 01:31:21 AM · #4
Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

Wonder if your images are training AI? You can check them here:

Check Your Images


don't lose your time checking that. AI was trained on 5 Billion images. Better jump in the boat as the future of many photographers are doomed. A combination of AI, photography and photo editing is the future.


Funny I checked one and found 4 of mine on the first few pages - interesting odds out of billions.
05/08/2023 01:55:35 AM · #5
I tried quite a few of mine published on DPC and did not find any. Probably because of low resolution of images.
05/08/2023 11:14:03 AM · #6
Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

the future of many photographers are doomed. A combination of AI, photography and photo editing is the future.


I can see where the future of garden variety images is doomed. AI will still need to be taught and there will always be those spur-of-the-moment, random delightful captures that AI won't be able to create on its own.

It will always need guidance.
05/08/2023 11:33:26 AM · #7
Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

Wonder if your images are training AI? You can check them here:

Check Your Images


don't lose your time checking that. AI was trained on 5 Billion images. Better jump in the boat as the future of many photographers are doomed. A combination of AI, photography and photo editing is the future.


Funny I checked one and found 4 of mine on the first few pages - interesting odds out of billions.

How did you enter the photo values? Did you use a url or did you upload an image file? Not getting url's to work.
05/08/2023 12:03:08 PM · #8
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

Wonder if your images are training AI? You can check them here:

haveibeentrained[/thumb].com/]Check Your Images


don't lose your time checking that. AI was trained on 5 Billion images. Better jump in the boat as the future of many photographers are doomed. A combination of AI, photography and photo editing is the future.


Funny I checked one and found 4 of mine on the first few pages - interesting odds out of billions.

How did you enter the photo values? Did you use a url or did you upload an image file? Not getting url's to work.


I uploaded a screen shot of a photo because I wanted to know if it was matching exif, etc.

What I uploaded:


First page of results:


Lower page of results:


Message edited by author 2023-05-08 12:03:23.
05/08/2023 12:15:30 PM · #9
We all know any time we up load an image to the internet it can be swiped - this image has been taken so may times and sold as screen savers, inspirational meme’s etc. Apparently China ‘artists’ took it to sell as an oil painting. LOL. I was proud of that image, it was ALL created in camera and now that same thing can be created a million times over with AI — I’ll have to think about how I feel about that. It takes the extraordinary and makes it ordinary. Is that good or bad? Don’t know yet, need to give it more thought than off my cuff.

My original (shot for a challenge on DPC way back in the day):


On AI tracking engine:


Amazon “art” by China:


Message edited by author 2023-05-09 00:54:56.
05/08/2023 12:27:29 PM · #10
Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

...It takes the extraordinary and makes it ordinary. ...

For me it was the opposite experience ;)
05/08/2023 12:57:02 PM · #11
Originally posted by MargaretNet:

Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

...It takes the extraordinary and makes it ordinary. ...

For me it was the opposite experience ;)


THAT is why there is room for both. I appreciate the art of capturing something in camera that is spectacular -- I chase that goal every time (largely missing the mark). What made that particular photo of mine (frog with the umbrella) so appealing was not the quality of the photo (which is lacking) but the extraordinary, unreal aspect of it. Now if I can just say "put a frog flying through the sky with a swarovski crystal umbrella" in to a program and have it generate that; sure, it might look cool which is enough for many. For ME it was the fact it actually happened. That is the extraordinary part.

ETA: All that said - I love a good painting created from someone's imagination and the skill that they put in to that as well. Being able to input parameters in to a program is awesome to see what it'll generate, and expands the mind for sure. The aesthetic and appreciation for someone's talent is missing. Not to say the end result isn't 'cool' it's just not the same "Wow, that person is talented" response. Doesn't mean I don't think the picture is fun to look at, I just don't assign the art to the person who is presenting it.

Message edited by author 2023-05-08 13:15:13.
05/08/2023 01:48:16 PM · #12
Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

"put a frog flying through the sky with a swarovski crystal umbrella" in to a program and have it generate that...


I did just that:
.

Are they cool?
05/08/2023 02:11:30 PM · #13
Originally posted by MargaretNet:

Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

"put a frog flying through the sky with a swarovski crystal umbrella" in to a program and have it generate that...


I did just that:
.

Are they cool?


So the question then becomes "is this talent"? "Does this require talent"? Or even "what is talent"?
05/08/2023 02:27:08 PM · #14
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by MargaretNet:

Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

"put a frog flying through the sky with a swarovski crystal umbrella" in to a program and have it generate that...


I did just that:
.

Are they cool?


So the question then becomes "is this talent"? "Does this require talent"? Or even "what is talent"?

For me they are horrible so maybe in these early days of AI, talent is to learn better prompts and make better choices of the many images generated by AI, have a vision for the style, content, mood etc.

I actually liked the image that won Sony competition, I liked the choices made by the artist - the composition, the processing style, the expressions of the non-existing women; all this would not come together without the artist's involvement and direction.
05/08/2023 02:58:01 PM · #15
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by MargaretNet:

Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

"put a frog flying through the sky with a swarovski crystal umbrella" in to a program and have it generate that...


I did just that:
.

Are they cool?


So the question then becomes "is this talent"? "Does this require talent"? Or even "what is talent"?


I assign the talent to the person who coded the program initially (eta) and the artists whose images are being used to generate the pieces of the pie.

Message edited by author 2023-05-08 16:22:12.
05/09/2023 01:00:16 AM · #16


Have to laugh my first ever dpc image that finished 110th in a free study and now sold as an oil painting on Amazon. Which goes to show you not rocking on dpc doesn’t mean you can’t have success —even if it isn’t your own personal success



Message edited by author 2023-05-09 01:03:31.
05/09/2023 07:29:21 AM · #17
Received notice of an update to Alamy contract today ... some mention of ML of possible interest to this discussion.

05/09/2023 10:24:51 AM · #18
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Received notice of an update to Alamy contract today ... some mention of ML of possible interest to this discussion.



Photographers are becoming the cotton-pickers of content.
05/09/2023 10:37:26 AM · #19
Originally posted by tanguera:

So the question then becomes "is this talent"? "Does this require talent"? Or even "what is talent"?

No.
No.
In this case, can you provide a program enough parameters to get what you want out. (IMHO, no talent required)
05/09/2023 10:45:20 AM · #20
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by MargaretNet:

Originally posted by ErinKirsten:

"put a frog flying through the sky with a swarovski crystal umbrella" in to a program and have it generate that...


I did just that:
.

Are they cool?


So the question then becomes "is this talent"? "Does this require talent"? Or even "what is talent"?


Is talent necessary to click a button? No, it is not. However, when it comes to generating content using AI, talent can make a significant difference in the quality of the output. Through my own experience, I have observed that generating content using AI involves a learning process that takes time and requires ongoing improvement.
05/09/2023 11:18:58 AM · #21
Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

... I have observed that generating content using AI involves a learning process that takes time and requires ongoing improvement.

Until, at some point, this becomes an automated part of the process too. "learning process" is exactly what AI is based off of ...
05/09/2023 11:30:43 AM · #22
Originally posted by MargaretNet:



Are they cool?

This one is awesome.
Not only is the frog missing a leg, it's being impaled by the umbrella!

The umbrella shaft isn't straight either.

I guess there's talent in recognizing the image is ridiculous.


Message edited by author 2023-05-09 11:32:37.
05/09/2023 11:36:13 AM · #23
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

... I have observed that generating content using AI involves a learning process that takes time and requires ongoing improvement.

Until, at some point, this becomes an automated part of the process too. "learning process" is exactly what AI is based off of ...


Yep that is my thought exactly; I have already provided images (funny Alamy sends that notice after it is revealed to be a source) I don’t need to provide the verbiage as well. 6 mos time (if that) this will be a much different process that is even easier than it is now.
05/09/2023 11:51:12 AM · #24
Originally posted by Venser:

Originally posted by MargaretNet:



Are they cool?

This one is awesome.
Not only is the frog missing a leg, it's being impaled by the umbrella!

The umbrella shaft isn't straight either.

I guess there's talent in recognizing the image is ridiculous.

This is why AI is not as easy as portrayed, there are a lot of images which are awful. It takes a lot of skill and vision to generate and select a good AI image.
05/09/2023 12:09:48 PM · #25
Originally posted by MargaretNet:

This is why AI is not as easy as portrayed, there are a lot of images which are awful. It takes a lot of skill and vision to generate and select a good AI image.

Does it though?
My eight year old daughter pointed out those two mistakes immediately. If the level of talent required is that you have functioning eyes, the bar is set pretty low.
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