Voting and Commenting on Unofficial

02/09/2022 09:44:23 AM · #1

I have noticed that quite of few of frequent participants of challenges hardly ever vote or comment. I thought maybe adding the voting and commenting race to the Unofficial Ribbons (if possible) would encourage all challenge participants to return the favor to those who vote and comment on their images. What do you think?

Olympus 17mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko

02/09/2022 10:20:18 AM · #2

Might be a worthy pursuit with one exception ... make only comments DURING the voting stage count.

PennyStreet

Olympus OM-D E-M1

02/09/2022 07:57:46 PM · #3

As one who already votes on most but could be encouraged to comment more, this is an idea to ponder, for sure. Results might be hard to capture though.

tnun

Ricoh GR III

Pentax DA 18-135mm F3.5-5.6ED AL [IF] WR DC

02/09/2022 08:37:18 PM · #4

there is already a breakdown of highest (to lowest) commenters, under "Community." And ms PennyStreet, don't comment any more as I am about to pass you in the frequency ranking.

noraneko

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

02/09/2022 08:54:12 PM · #5

I love this idea or something similar. Comments mean a lot to most of us. I want to know what I did well, and what I can improve on. I think lots of us are in that boat.

Olympus 17mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko

02/09/2022 09:38:45 PM · #6

Originally posted by tnun:

there is already a breakdown of highest (to lowest) commenters, under "Community." And ms PennyStreet, don't comment any more as I am about to pass you in the frequency ranking.

Oh yeah! Let the trash talking begin. :-)

PennyStreet

Olympus OM-D E-M1

02/09/2022 10:46:42 PM · #7

Hahaha! Nothing beats a

tnun comment.

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

02/10/2022 12:01:37 AM · #8

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Hahaha! Nothing beats a tnun comment.

True that!

Canon RF 24-105mm F/4L IS USM

02/10/2022 02:06:10 AM · #9

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by tnun:
there is already a breakdown of highest (to lowest) commenters, under "Community." And ms PennyStreet, don't comment any more as I am about to pass you in the frequency ranking.

Oh yeah! Let the trash talking begin. :-)

This is for 20 years, no annual breakdown. And quite a few people are gone.

hajeka

Canon EOS R5

02/10/2022 03:29:30 AM · #10

Originally posted by MargaretNet:

I like the idea. A "voting" race cannot be done (individual information not available for me (or you)), but I think a "commenting" race can be done, although it will require a lot of extra coding, so don't expect it in the near future.

02/10/2022 05:59:17 AM · #11

Originally posted by hajeka:

Originally posted by MargaretNet:
I have noticed that quite of few of frequent participants of challenges hardly ever vote or comment. I thought maybe adding the voting and commenting race to the Unofficial Ribbons (if possible) would encourage all challenge participants to return the favor to those who vote and comment on their images. What do you think?

I like the idea. A "voting" race cannot be done (individual information not available for me (or you)), but I think a "commenting" race can be done, although it will require a lot of extra coding, so don't expect it in the near future.

Thanks, Henk-Jan. I have assumed that all publicly visible data are available for analysis, for example, my current Votes and Comments from my profile:

"Votes Cast: 61,066 ...
Comments: Made: 4,471"

At some stage I had a spreadsheet that I updated once a week with the most frequent challenge participants to find out how much they vote and comment (that's where this suggestion came from). I did not update it after every challenge and I, obviously, could not know number of their votes and comments for the challenges that were then in voting.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

02/10/2022 09:36:57 AM · #12

I still think it should be only comments made during voting, and that's not easily split out.

Why? After rollover there are many (majority of comments actually given in a challenge) comments made that are all "fluffy" rather than anything substantial (not always - but usually).

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

02/10/2022 03:22:21 PM · #13

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Hahaha! Nothing beats a tnun comment.

Agree!!!

roz

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark III

Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 60mm 1:2.8 Macro

02/10/2022 07:56:53 PM · #14

Originally posted by glad2badad:

define "fluffy" ..
and then define "substantial" .. :)

tnun

Ricoh GR III

Pentax DA 18-135mm F3.5-5.6ED AL [IF] WR DC

02/10/2022 08:18:09 PM · #15

I do like a mix of fluff and substance. Say, isn't there a tune called Fluff and Substance?

02/10/2022 08:39:44 PM · #16

Originally posted by roz:

Originally posted by glad2badad:
I still think it should be only comments made during voting, and that's not easily split out.

Why? After rollover there are many (majority of comments actually given in a challenge) comments made that are all "fluffy" rather than anything substantial (not always - but usually).

define "fluffy" ..
and then define "substantial" .. :)

'fluffy' = "congrats", "love this", "nice", and then just about anything said on front page entries after rollover.
'substantial' = "loved your choice of colortone", "the foreground really complements the comp on this", "spot on focus where it counts", ...

02/10/2022 08:43:05 PM · #17

Originally posted by tnun:

I do like a mix of fluff and substance. Say, isn't there a tune called Fluff and Substance?

Fluffernutter comes to mind. :-)

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

02/11/2022 12:55:15 AM · #18

I don't feel qualified to provide "substance" and I love to receive "fluff" ;)

Most of active DPCers are not beginners and have their own ways of making images, who am I to judge them!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

02/11/2022 07:35:01 AM · #19

Originally posted by MargaretNet:

I don't feel qualified to provide "substance" and I love to receive "fluff" ;)

Most of active DPCers are not beginners and have their own ways of making images, who am I to judge them!

I think the point of a "substantive" comment is not to "judge" the photographer's compositional or editing choices, but to express how those choices affect you -- no one else is "qualified" to do that.

02/11/2022 07:51:05 AM · #20

Originally posted by MargaretNet:

... who am I to judge them!

Ummm, you are? Every time you cast a vote. This is DPChallenge. :-)

02/11/2022 08:36:21 AM · #21

This is exactly why I rarely comment these days but I do vote.

Olympus 17mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko

02/11/2022 09:12:22 AM · #22

Originally posted by MargaretNet:

This is exactly why I rarely comment these days but I do vote.

Why, because of some banter in a forum thread? Comments left on a challenge entry rarely elicit additional conversation. Now if you're getting PM's from a photographer because they didn't like your comment that's another item, but I don't think that's the case here (actually, hopefully positive PM's are engaged from a comment reaction).

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

02/11/2022 10:57:25 AM · #23

I agree with the general consensus. A great statistic to have, but difficult to code.

PennyStreet

Olympus OM-D E-M1

02/11/2022 11:34:29 AM · #24

Originally posted by tnun:

I do like a mix of fluff and substance. Say, isn't there a tune called Fluff and Substance?

Flufflernutter!