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09/24/2021 12:00:07 AM · #1
Post your outtakes from the Friendship challenge here.
09/24/2021 02:22:31 PM · #2
This was my entry

and this was the original frame (more-less)

I was going back and forth between these two options, but eventually decided that the closeup would perform better, even though I personally felt that a wider scene was more interesting... What do you think?
09/24/2021 02:30:02 PM · #3
No brainer ... your entry was the best choice without question.
09/25/2021 01:56:42 AM · #4
appears i have no brain .. !! .. ;)
going backwards and forwards between both photos .. i'd be having difficulty deciding too ..
the close-up is an excellent photo for the challenge ... and seeing it got the blue .. the voters agreed ..

but i really liked the wider scene too .. i liked that there was more going on .. love the way the red spade seems to balance the image and give more of a story ... didnt really like the background hills tho ..

one thing .. in the close-up photo the person to the left and up a bit from the subjects .. seemingly bending over sitting down .. i find quite a distraction .. in the wider view because there's more going on the person doesnt have such impact .
of course thats just my opinion .. and other ppl might like that person there ..

feel a bit weird giving that opinion to such an amazing photographer .
but you did ask . !! .. ;)

09/25/2021 03:20:16 AM · #5
I agree with Roz, excellent analysis :) I think if that other person playing in the sand was closer and less blurred to give a smaller repetition of the main actors it would have been my choice. Although the spade completes the scene in the wider framing the red color makes it too distracting.
09/25/2021 07:54:41 PM · #6
Thank you all for the input! On one hand, yes, I agree with you that the wider version has more elements (the spade, in the first place) that distract from the central theme of the photo. I know that simple compositions usually get better scores, and that's why I chose it :). On the other hand, disregarding the scores for a moment, I am not sure that distracting elements should be avoided to make a photo easy to view and understand. For example, Henri Cartier-Bresson's photos often have a lot going on in them, you really have to look and ponder what made him press the shutter button. This extra effort is a big part of the enjoyment. Distracting, seemingly unnecessary elements also often add to the context and the atmosphere. Look for example at these couple of photos:

09/26/2021 03:31:48 AM · #7
Originally posted by LevT:

Thank you all for the input! On one hand, yes, I agree with you that the wider version has more elements (the spade, in the first place) that distract from the central theme of the photo. I know that simple compositions usually get better scores, and that's why I chose it :). On the other hand, disregarding the scores for a moment, I am not sure that distracting elements should be avoided to make a photo easy to view and understand. For example, Henri Cartier-Bresson's photos often have a lot going on in them, you really have to look and ponder what made him press the shutter button. This extra effort is a big part of the enjoyment. Distracting, seemingly unnecessary elements also often add to the context and the atmosphere. Look for example at these couple of photos:


totally agree Lev .. i like a bit of busy on occasion ... ie. distractions ..
i just wasnt a big fan of the out of focus guy in the background in the more cropped version .. it wasnt so much an intellectual judgement .. but a gut reaction ..
the thing is when you are shooting candid photos .. you take what you can get in an often moving scene .. altho of course there's a lot you can do to create what you 'see' and want to convey .. and i feel you are a master in that genre ..

having said that .. i want to add .. you are one of the best here in dpc in my eyes ..
and i bow down to your extreme talent ..
hope i havent given you a big head .lol. but i'm just saying it how i see it .
also i enjoy giving a compliment here and there .. and i'm pretty sure most ppl like receiving them ..


09/26/2021 04:48:51 AM · #8
Originally posted by LevT:

Thank you all for the input! On one hand, yes, I agree with you that the wider version has more elements (the spade, in the first place) that distract from the central theme of the photo. I know that simple compositions usually get better scores, and that's why I chose it :). On the other hand, disregarding the scores for a moment, I am not sure that distracting elements should be avoided to make a photo easy to view and understand. For example, Henri Cartier-Bresson's photos often have a lot going on in them, you really have to look and ponder what made him press the shutter button. This extra effort is a big part of the enjoyment. Distracting, seemingly unnecessary elements also often add to the context and the atmosphere. Look for example at these couple of photos:

I love the first photo, I hate the second. Maybe my mind likes order and balance. The first photo has a great composition with intersecting diagonals and gradual loss of focus. It has an absurd feel, a photo of a bit bizarre situation. You could also see work hierarchy as the guy in full focus wears a suit and a tie. The second photo does not work for me at all - no clear focus, cut building, people and branch on periphery, high contrast and a triangular composition of two verticals, tree and chimney, and a horizontal line - the body. Not sure why people would like this photo, I don't relate to it.
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