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04/26/2020 07:14:59 PM · #1 |
The former 3rd-place image in the "Colorful II" challenge has been DQd because the photographer cloned out lens grit from the center of the image. It's only allowed to clone out imperfections that are on the sensor. Why? Because cleaning lenses is easy and should be a part of your routine. Cleaning sensors is scary-hard and it can't be done in the field.
Congrats to our new ribboner and HM!
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04/26/2020 08:02:19 PM · #2 |
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04/26/2020 09:00:28 PM · #3 |
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04/28/2020 04:33:34 PM · #4 |
That sucks, Larry. Dang it.
How can one tell the difference between lens grit and dust bunnies on a sensor, please?
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04/28/2020 07:02:35 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Lydia:
That sucks, Larry. Dang it.
How can one tell the difference between lens grit and dust bunnies on a sensor, please? |
So here is the clarification of my DQ. Firstly, I totally accept the decision of the site council based upon the definition of the rules. Here is the original unedited image:
As you can see there is a small dark mark in the center of the picture that I had edited out. I had only taken one picture like this one and when I saw it on my camera I assumed it was dirt on the lens or the sensor. Before taking any other pictures I cleaned the sensor and the lens. It did not appear on any other pictures I took thereafter. When I decided to use this image in the challenge I removed the spot and entered the picture. I apparently misunderstood the rules. After the challenge voting began I decided to send the picture in to be pre validated with an explanation of my concerns about the removal of the spot. I felt that if it was against the rules then I would withdraw the picture before the end of the challenge. For what ever reason the picture was not validated until after the challenge was over and it was deemed a violation of the rules. Thus the DQ. This is an explanation and NOT a complaint. As I said, "Rules are Rules". |
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04/28/2020 07:09:20 PM · #6 |
Oh! That's lens grit?
It looks like something stuck to the paper itself.
But, yeah... I do see how it's not a sensor dust bunny.
I'd think that lens grit would be blurry.
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04/28/2020 07:09:33 PM · #7 |
wow, that is really tini-tiny and removing that caused DQ, that is something new.
Originally posted by GolferDDS:
Originally posted by Lydia:
That sucks, Larry. Dang it.
How can one tell the difference between lens grit and dust bunnies on a sensor, please? |
So here is the clarification of my DQ. Firstly, I totally accept the decision of the site council based upon the definition of the rules. Here is the original unedited image:
As you can see there is a small dark mark in the center of the picture that I had edited out. I had only taken one picture like this one and when I saw it on my camera I assumed it was dirt on the lens or the sensor. Before taking any other pictures I cleaned the sensor and the lens. It did not appear on any other pictures I took thereafter. When I decided to use this image in the challenge I removed the spot and entered the picture. I apparently misunderstood the rules. After the challenge voting began I decided to send the picture in to be pre validated with an explanation of my concerns about the removal of the spot. I felt that if it was against the rules then I would withdraw the picture before the end of the challenge. For what ever reason the picture was not validated until after the challenge was over and it was deemed a violation of the rules. Thus the DQ. This is an explanation and NOT a complaint. As I said, "Rules are Rules". |
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04/28/2020 07:14:39 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by GolferDDS:
After the challenge voting began I decided to send the picture in to be pre validated with an explanation of my concerns about the removal of the spot. I felt that if it was against the rules then I would withdraw the picture before the end of the challenge. For what ever reason the picture was not validated until after the challenge was over and it was deemed a violation of the rules. Thus the DQ. This is an explanation and NOT a complaint. As I said, "Rules are Rules". |
This is a good spot to remind people that if you pre-submit an original before or during voting, the site stores it but SC are NOT aware of its presence unless they have reason to know it's been sent in; it's not automatic. If you are worried about possible legality DURING voting, just upload the image (as you did) and send us a ticket to alert us. Also, everyone should be aware that once voting has started then a DQ, even if self-reported, for actually breaking the editing rules is rreated as a regular DQ.
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04/28/2020 08:04:22 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Lydia:
I'd think that lens grit would be blurry. |
Yes, I had a blurry spot on my sensor for a while that would not clean off. It only showed up as a darker area in light blue skies and such. (Now that I am looking for an example, I can't find one) I was thinking the filter over my sensor had been damaged by a drop of saltwater while changing lenses. Turned out my cleaning kit was either old or just sucked. I bought a different cleaning kit and it came right off. |
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04/28/2020 10:05:01 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Lydia:
Oh! That's lens grit? I'd think that lens grit would be blurry. |
No, lens grit tends to be much sharper than sensor junk. Depends on the aperture. If you wanna see what I mean, take a filter and make it deliberately dirty then shoot through it at f/22. That'll do the trick just fine :-) Sensor dust, on the other hand, stays the same no matter what aperture you are using and what the focal length is.
Message edited by author 2020-04-28 22:05:50. |
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04/29/2020 11:14:10 AM · #11 |
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04/29/2020 01:51:18 PM · #12 |
Wow!!!
I thought "imperfections" of any kind can be cloned out, as long as they are "imperfections" (not a whole object).
Always something new to learn.
Next time slap a texture over it to cover it up :-). - Really??? This somehow doesn't make sense.
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04/29/2020 01:57:34 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by kasaba:
Wow!!!
I thought "imperfections" of any kind can be cloned out, as long as they are "imperfections" (not a whole object).
Always something new to learn.
Next time slap a texture over it to cover it up :-). - Really??? This somehow doesn't make sense. |
The issue here is that the challenge was run under Minimal Rules, so pretty much no editing. |
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