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08/07/2002 07:00:37 AM · #1 |
What do you do when you think the picture is of a really high quality and the challenge is fully met, but you just don't like it?
Imagine the challenge is "My Cute Dog." It's the perfect puppy picture, wonderful in every way, but you don't like dogs…
I have come across this phenomenon for the first time during a vote/comment session and wondered how everybody thinks a vote like this should be handled…
After much deliberation I scored the picture on merit and gave it the high score it deserved…
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08/07/2002 07:49:21 AM · #2 |
| does the concept of voting escape you |
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08/07/2002 08:19:07 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by clay:
does the concept of voting escape you
Yes... That's why I asked...
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08/07/2002 08:20:06 AM · #4 |
| Jsabbaarton YOU DID THE RIGHT THING. I sometimes feel conflicted too, especially when the picture is in poor taste. Thinking in terms of the abstract principles of good composition helps. aelith |
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08/07/2002 08:48:38 AM · #5 |
| Well, personally, if a photo is really technically good, but I just don't like the subject or what is expressed in it, I give it 8. I reserve 9s and 10s for photos that give me that little thrill of recognition, that this is not just a good image, but one that I connect with. I might also give a photo 8 if I liked it a lot but it had major technical flaws... that's why I've always thought scoring is ambiguous unless you separate, at the very least, technical and artistic merit. |
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08/07/2002 09:13:40 AM · #6 |
Everyone needs to be congratulated for his or her pictures for this challenge. I just finished voting and had to stop making comments due to time constraints. After the voting closes I ask anyone that has questions please contact me and I will clarify my vote. Good job.
When voting, if the subject matter is not of particular interest to me I try to vote on its merit. But I feel that I am an average guy and therefore my interest is also important in the final vote.
Autool
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08/07/2002 09:22:38 AM · #7 |
In my view your vote should be based on the combination of a number of factors. What factors is up to you and should reflect what you think is important. But for me the important factors are: adherance to challenge, technical quality of the photo (focus, colour, framing and so on), creativity, aesthetics.
To score a 10 from me the picture must:
have some bearing on the challenge
show a good technical ability with the camera
show some creativity when choosing the shot
be pleasing to look at (or if not pleasing then insightful)
So in answer to the original question - if you dont like the picture and it's important to you that you should then knock off a couple of points.
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08/07/2002 09:25:58 AM · #8 |
| Thanks people... It all helps... |
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08/07/2002 09:26:04 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by jsabbarton:
What do you do when you think the picture is of a really high quality and the challenge is fully met, but you just don't like it?
Imagine the challenge is "My Cute Dog." It's the perfect puppy picture, wonderful in every way, but you don't like dogs…
I have come across this phenomenon for the first time during a vote/comment session and wondered how everybody thinks a vote like this should be handled…
After much deliberation I scored the picture on merit and gave it the high score it deserved…
JS,
This is the 'subjective' part of your vote decision. With the current voting scheme, you must develop your own method of filtering that in to your score. One possible method is to allow 5 points for technical merit and 5 points for the 'do i like the subject' issue... You could break down your vote into as many categories as you like and find what works best for you :)
I have seen quite a few photos in the past that are technically stable that did not have a subject that appealed to me as well...
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08/07/2002 11:13:16 AM · #10 |
| I don't know about everyone else but I don't just take pictures of what I like. So why would voting on one be any different? I take the good with the bad and try not to be objective. If I came across a car wreck and I have my camera, and no one needs help, I will probably be taking pictures? It is not because I am morbid it is what I see. One picture that sticks in my mind is a mayor during the Vietnam War putting a gun to the head of a prisoner and shooting him. The grimace of pain on the subject and the spurting of his blood from his head wound have stuck in my mind forever. Now is that a good or bad photography? The picture dealt with the times and it has become a famous or notorious picture in history. |
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08/07/2002 11:29:05 AM · #11 |
This would be the kind of thing that makes use of my "if it's not pretty to look at then it had better be insightful in some way" rule.
John |
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08/07/2002 11:39:23 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by floyd:
This would be the kind of thing that makes use of my "if it's not pretty to look at then it had better be insightful in some way" rule.
John
I agree and I like to use the term 'visual impact' for this. A photo may be technically perfect and not have any visual impact for me. This either means that I don't like the subject or the subject and/or composition of the photo bores me.
On the other hand, a technically imperfect photo with high levels of visual impact may score very highly with me... I have given 10s to photos like this in the past...
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