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09/15/2018 11:34:36 AM · #1
Gack -- lightroom drives me up the wall.

Can you please explain why sometimes things show up in lightroom and sometimes they don't?

Example: I edit a photo. I save the changes. Half the time it shows up in my lightroom catalog, and the other half it doesn't.

When I do a save as in photoshop, it doesn't show up in lightroom.

If I'm working on a photo, even if I make extra copies by doing save as, I'd love to be able to find them again! When I worked in bridge, things would appear there. Once I've edited photos, how in the heck do I find them in lightroom?
09/15/2018 11:38:40 AM · #2
if the folder you saved the photos to is in Lightroom already, right click the folder name in the Library view and select Synchronize
09/15/2018 12:08:22 PM · #3
^^ That.
Plus, remember that Lr has an "import" process, so it is natural that photos that have not been imported don't show up in the catalog. That is the reason why "synchronize" is necessary.
Personally, I never re-import a photo after editing in Ps. My flow is:
- Shoot
- Import to Lr to cull, edit, and catalog the RAWs
- Export RAWs, either for their final use, e.g. web, print, etc., or for further editing
- Images that have editing beyond Lr get opened from and re-saved to the exported folder

The upshot of this is that I have two image repositories; one for RAW files, and one for finished product. RAW files are cataloged by date shot, finished product by year and project, e.g. 2018\AZ_2018-09
09/15/2018 12:13:51 PM · #4
Originally posted by krnodil:

if the folder you saved the photos to is in Lightroom already, right click the folder name in the Library view and select Synchronize


Yup, that is how I'd re-import them as well.

In future, if you just click 'save' in PS the image will (should) return to LR with 'edit' suffixed to the image (I always export to PS using the 'edit a copy with LR changes' checked). Saving this way will lose any layers and history (it does the way my LR is set up anyway).

Don't listen to me anyway as a final challenge image is often called something like imagename.edit.edit.edit2.edit4.edit.tif - I need to learn LR & PS as well lol.

Always one to use an analogy when one isn't needed, think of LR being a drawer in your living room and PS being a cupboard in the kitchen.

If you take a red widget out of the living room drawer, paint it blue then put it back into the kitchen cupboard don't be suprised when you can't find the blue widget in the lounge drawer (well, it sounds right to me).
09/15/2018 04:52:51 PM · #5
Originally posted by Ecce_Signum:

Originally posted by krnodil:

if the folder you saved the photos to is in Lightroom already, right click the folder name in the Library view and select Synchronize


Yup, that is how I'd re-import them as well.

In future, if you just click 'save' in PS the image will (should) return to LR with 'edit' suffixed to the image (I always export to PS using the 'edit a copy with LR changes' checked). Saving this way will lose any layers and history (it does the way my LR is set up anyway).

Don't listen to me anyway as a final challenge image is often called something like imagename.edit.edit.edit2.edit4.edit.tif - I need to learn LR & PS as well lol.

Always one to use an analogy when one isn't needed, think of LR being a drawer in your living room and PS being a cupboard in the kitchen.

If you take a red widget out of the living room drawer, paint it blue then put it back into the kitchen cupboard don't be suprised when you can't find the blue widget in the lounge drawer (well, it sounds right to me).


But then how do you figure out where you left off in editing? I'm working through close to 100 headshots. I open about 10 from lightroom, make changes in photoshop, but then I need to know which ones to edit next. It was so simple in bridge -- it all just showed up, and you could sort by type, etc. I'm having problems knowing where I am in my work flow because they don't seem to want to play together. :(
09/15/2018 05:02:41 PM · #6
Ok -- so I'm trying all this out, but it still doesn't seem to work.

When I look in the folder on my hard drive -- I have edited 18 files and saved them as photoshop files.

When I look in lightroom, it shows me that there are only 10 photoshop files in that directory. When I do a sync, it's not finding anymore. When I try an impoort, it doesn't show photoshop files.

What am I missing?
09/15/2018 05:20:03 PM · #7
my question is why you would be using photoshop to edit headshots when lightroom already has all the tools you need?

my headshot workflow is quite simple:
1) import into lr
2) use rating to select the ones i'm going to edit
3) filter and create a collection called deliverable
4) select all
5) go into develop mode and adjust the first one, including cropping
6) sync the edits all selected
7) scroll through, adjusting the crop and anything else
8) go back to library and export

honestly have not used photoshop on headshots of any type in at least 8 years.

ymmv ;-)
09/15/2018 06:13:45 PM · #8
Easy fix: don't use Lightroom.
09/15/2018 07:39:53 PM · #9
Originally posted by vawendy:

Ok -- so I'm trying all this out, but it still doesn't seem to work.

When I look in the folder on my hard drive -- I have edited 18 files and saved them as photoshop files.

When I look in lightroom, it shows me that there are only 10 photoshop files in that directory. When I do a sync, it's not finding anymore. When I try an impoort, it doesn't show photoshop files.

What am I missing?


I find that Photoshop often defaults to saving into the most recently folder that Photoshop previously used rather than to the folder that the current image lives came from for editing. One thing to check is exactly where Photoshop is saving your edited files. You can either move the edited files back to their intended directory and have Lightroom synchronize with that folder, or you can use Lightroom to import the edited files from their new location (select the correct folder when selecting import parameters.

But you say you see the new files in the correct folder on the hard drive (presumably with the system file browser) and synch does not make them show up in Lightroom. The synchronize folder command opens a dialog with a number of parameters to select. Assuming the new files have different names than the originals, be sure the "import new photos" item is checked. Take a look at the other parameters to see if any of them might be contributing to unexpected results. Be careful about the "remove missing photos from the catalog" item. That can result in files being in the folder but not in the Lightroom catalog of the folder. If a file has been renamed, it might remove one version from the catalog (as "missing") despite you wanting both versions to be in the catalog. Leaving this unchecked might help.

Edited to add: Also remember to double check the Lightroom library window to be sure there is not a filter unexpectedly hiding some of the images from the view (date filter?).

Message edited by author 2018-09-15 19:48:48.
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