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02/14/2003 01:44:37 PM · #1
I really, really like the tick box for "Helpful Comments". Could another box be added for "Troll Comments"? This is a learning site with no place (IMO)for being mean or rude or crude.
02/14/2003 01:49:51 PM · #2
Originally posted by Swashbuckler:

I really, really like the tick box for "Helpful Comments". Could another box be added for "Troll Comments"? This is a learning site with no place (IMO)for being mean or rude or crude.


If you receive a comment that is inappropriate for the site, please feel free to let any site council member or administrator know. Comments that are patently offensive (read: violation of terms of use) will be dealt with accordingly.

Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
02/14/2003 02:25:38 PM · #3
Bamaster called me a poopie head. He's a big meanie. Just kidding ... hopefully he'll get lucky on Valentine's day.

Cheers.

Some people just don't have tact, I suppose. Most will try to give constructive criticism, but sometimes it comes out sounding too harsh. I still find it funny when I see comments like "duh" and "what is it". Comes with the territory. Hopefully you get more constructive comments than bad ones.
02/14/2003 02:38:50 PM · #4
The problem with a "Troll Comment" checkbox is it will encourage trolls... Not discourage them. Trolls feed on recognition and would love it if people checked a box that basically said "this remark got to me"...

Ignore a troll and they go somewhere else.
02/14/2003 02:44:37 PM · #5
Wo, very good point. I agree.

Originally posted by myqyl:

The problem with a "Troll Comment" checkbox is it will encourage trolls... Not discourage them. Trolls feed on recognition and would love it if people checked a box that basically said "this remark got to me"...

Ignore a troll and they go somewhere else.

02/14/2003 02:47:06 PM · #6
I enjoy getting troll comments.. It lets me know who I need to take seriously and who I need to ignore... If people want to be known as trolls, then we can just let them thrive on that. Everyone needs some way to get their kicks, and tastelessness and poor tact seems to be the choice of some...
02/14/2003 02:52:54 PM · #7
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

I enjoy getting troll comments...It lets me know who I need to take seriously and who I need to ignore...
Everyone needs some way to get their kicks, and tastelessness and poor tact seems to be the choice of some...

...and an amazing number of them seem to be television executives.

Message edited by author 2003-02-14 14:53:31.
02/14/2003 03:03:21 PM · #8
Originally posted by myqyl:

The problem with a "Troll Comment" checkbox is it will encourage trolls... Not discourage them. Trolls feed on recognition and would love it if people checked a box that basically said "this remark got to me"...

Ignore a troll and they go somewhere else.


You are probably correct for the most part. I would so like this experience to be a positive one, esp. for the newbies on this site. Having NO entries for the past month or so, I don't have the opportunity to either ignore the trolls or encourage them, but I do worry about our newer people.

Is tack that hard???
02/24/2003 01:46:23 AM · #9
i am tired of troll threads all the time. If comments bother certain poeple so much they can do one of two things: submit better photos, don't submit a photo at all, or learn from the comments. I am starting to think that certain people start calling people names just because they don't like a certain photograph. I get constant low scores but I don't go around calling people names (troll). Grow up.

//www.pbase.com/wheeler1992/wheeler1992
02/24/2003 01:55:50 AM · #10
Wheeler -

"In Usenet, a troll is someone who posts a message that is irrelevant, inane and/or insulting, in the hope of attracting hostile responses, or 'flames.'"

It's not a "name," it's a designation. The point is, there are some comments that you can't learn from, and which only exist to set fire. Whether or not you think the issue of a "troll" checkbox should be debated doesn't mean that you should question the maturity of users using a generally accepted internet forum term.

Basically, pull that beam out of your eye and say something relevant to the discussion instead of intentionally insulting people by posting an inflammatory comment.

Martin
(and yes, I said inflammatory)
02/24/2003 01:56:42 AM · #11
Originally posted by Wheeler1992:

If comments bother certain poeple so much they can do one of two things: submit better photos, don't submit a photo at all, or learn from the comments.

By their very nature, troll comments aren't helpful and often aren't even connected to whether a picture is good or not, leaving your list with only the option of not submitting at all. There is a better choice though, and that is too learn to ignore comments that serve no constructive purpose, and take advantage of those that do.

Message edited by author 2003-02-24 01:57:58.
02/24/2003 02:02:21 AM · #12
How about a check box to simply hide the unwanted comments??? That might discourage them quickly.
02/24/2003 07:19:31 AM · #13
Then make a checkbox for "offending comments" too. One comment on my last submission was: "Do us all a favor and stop (living) lol"
IMO a very "special" kind of critique...

02/24/2003 08:20:34 AM · #14
Hiding comments only makes you police them more. Concentrate on the good ones, and use a positive way of ignoring them by checking the ones you deem helpful or considerate.
If we are proactive at the positive, then the troll doesn't get what they intended... attention.

As always, as clubjuggle pointed out, if there is a comment blatantly offensive/degrading that specifically is discussed as not allowed by the rules, then please inform a moderator, and it will be handled accordingly.
02/24/2003 10:30:05 AM · #15
Boy, would that comment be considered a troll comment. You may have thought it was helpful, but I didn't. Back to my point what one person thinks is helpful another one doesn't. I seen people complain about the troll issue over comments that are "out of focus". One person thought it was helpful and another didn't. How about everyone is only allowed to put in nice comments and can only vote tens. That way, just like in preschool, everyone gets the same score and nobody's feelings are hurt.

"In Usenet, a troll is someone who posts a message that is irrelevant, inane and/or insulting, in the hope of attracting hostile responses,

Basically, pull that beam out of your eye and say something relevant to the discussion instead of intentionally insulting people by posting an inflammatory comment.

//www.pbase.com/wheeler1992/wheeler1992
02/24/2003 10:53:08 AM · #16
Originally posted by nds:

Then make a checkbox for "offending comments" too. One comment on my last submission was: "Do us all a favor and stop (living) lol"
IMO a very "special" kind of critique...


I agree, that comment was inappropriate and totally devoid of constructive comment. It has been removed.

-Terry
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