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09/30/2004 02:33:33 AM · #1 |
Looking thru the specs of both, the main difference seems to me to be that 300 D has only auto metering, whereas 10D has options (Eval, Center, Partial).
How much of a difference is this? (I really like macro, and backlight.. will this be a serious limitation?)
Any other significant differences I am missing? |
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09/30/2004 03:35:33 AM · #2 |
Hi,
Well you now have the option of the 20D which will add further complication to the decision.
Regarding 300D and 10D the other main difference is the build quality. Don't get me wrong anyone picking up the 300D would be pleasantly surprised by the way it feels in the hands. It feels quite weighty and solid. But, if you were to compare the two camera you would realize that the 10D has a much more professional feel to it (helped I must say by the Black body)
I had a 300D and thought I would be OK with the body, in the end I developed my hobby and purchased a 28-135 USM IS lens. This feels a little front heavy on the 300D. (Feels much better on the 10 and 20D, more balanced)
With regard to quality of output, which is of course the important thing. The 300D and 10D are pretty much identical.
Your point about metering modes. This is a common miss-conception about the 300D. It does have all three modes, they are just restricted to certain shooting situations. (I admit that I never found this a particular limitation of the camera.) i.e. When shooting in any 'advanced' mode (p, TV, AV), pressing the '*' key will lock Exposure. It uses 'Partial' for this rather than Eval. I believe that centre weighted is available under manual mode. (I forget)
If price is an issue I recommend the 300D you should get it pretty cheap now (£600) You might want to consider getting the kit lens (18-55) or even buy the body only and purchase the new 18-55 USM version of the kit lens. Another good value lens is the 50mm 1.8 which is about £60 and takes amazingly sharp pictures.
I hope this was helpful.
Regards
Chris
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09/30/2004 03:44:09 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Chrisds:
I believe that centre weighted is available under manual mode. (I forget)
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Spot on. Centre weighted metering was available in manual on the 300D :)
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09/30/2004 03:53:57 AM · #4 |
If you don't own any Canon glass or accessories yet, consider the Pentax *istD.
This camera is more user-friendly than the 300D and has a higher standard of build quality. I believe that the Pentax and the Canon's share the same sensor, so that's not an issue. It has eval, center and spot metering, auto bracketting, EV +-3 stops. 3 autofocus modes, backlit LCD, ISO 200 to 3200....I can go on and on.... |
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09/30/2004 04:11:49 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by divernick:
I believe that the Pentax and the Canon's share the same sensor, so that's not an issue. |
Actually Pentax use a Sony CCD, which is very different to Canon's self-built CMOS sensor.
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09/30/2004 04:57:07 AM · #6 |
| I know that the pentax shares the sensor with another DSLR...is it maybe the Nikon D100? |
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09/30/2004 08:29:36 AM · #7 |
Don't forget that Pentax has anounced the little brother to the *ist D.
When I was looking for a DSLR I chose the 10D mainly for the metering mode and focusing mode issues. I shoot primarily in manual mode and never use center weighted averaging. I switch between evaluative and partial depending on the scene I am trying to capture.
For focusing mode I believe the 300D sets this automatically as well. I generally shoot in one shot AF with the center selected. I need to practice more with the other two to get a handle on how they work.
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09/30/2004 08:32:38 AM · #8 |
I now have both the Digital Rebel and new 20D. I have always loved my Digital Rebel and that has not changed even now that I have the 20D.
Like Chrisds said, I also have never found the metering modes on the DR to be any limitation. All 3 are available as Chrisds explained in his post. After playing around with the 20D a bit in the different metering modes I have found anyway that the metering mode doesn't very often change the exposure or aperture values at all when composing the same shot. I'm sure there are exceptions to this under certain lighting situations. When I have seen a difference though it has been within 1 stop difference. You could even use exposure compensation on the DR to care for this a bit. You will learn when you need to push or pull or when you don't.
I also have never found the build quality of the DR to be an issue. I think it feels real good in the hand even compared to my 20D. I have used a very large Sigma 80-400mm lens on my DR and found the camera balanced very well with the battery grip. I do recommend the battery grip for whichever camera you go with. I love the battery grips!!!
I also have to say that the color of the DR has never bothered me. People say the black look better, blah, blah! I think the pewter color is just fine and I actually like it. I have never had anyone come up to me and say, that camera must be not that good and cheep because it isn't black. I have however had many people come up to me and say things like, "you must be a professional with a camera like that". I think the whole thing about the camera color is blown way out of proportion.
One other nice thing about the Digital Rebel over the 10D is that with the Digital Rebel you can buy the IR Remote for about 25 bucks and have a remote release for your camera. I have it and I use it a lot for group family pictures and such. It's pretty cool. It clips right on to the camera strap so you don't lose it. I like this feature but it may not be important to you. I with they would have made the 20D compatible with the RC-1 IR remote!
You will be happy regardless of which camera you go with. I'm not trying to sway you one way or the other. I just wanted to let you know what I think of the Digital Rebel now that I also have the 20D to compare it with. The DR is still a top performer in my book. Especially for the price. :o)
Well, I hope this has helped! Good luck!!!
Disclaimer: Everything written in this post is my opinion and I'm sticking to it. :o)
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09/30/2004 09:27:21 AM · #9 |
I go along with everything wackybill says. I too have a Digital Rebel and have just bought a 20D. I also have access to my son's 10D. The DR is extremely good value for money and the advantages offered by the 10D are relatively small and you probably won't miss them. The 10D is a lot heavier and that is a considerable disadvantage if you have to carry it any distance.
The 20D is just magic but if you are buying your first DSLR, go for the DR!
Good Luck,
Hugh |
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09/30/2004 10:08:37 AM · #10 |
Thank you all for your helpful advice! Quite glad to know that the metering modes do not make that much of a difference. The other differences between the 10-D and 300-D didn't bother me much... (though that might just be ignorance on my part :D)
Now it's coming down to what's working out cheaper :)
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