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04/22/2015 03:09:01 PM · #1 |
Gack!!! This keeps happening to me!! I take a wonderful shot, and the people want it in 8x10! That crops off sooooo much of the photo. And I keep cropping in camera. I have a family portrait for this lady, and I can't crop the stupid thing to 8x10! Now I have to try to extend it and clone around to make more background width wise so I can crop it lengthwise.
It should be 8x12!!! Or it should be 4x5!
I say we revolt!
(oh wait... I'm already revolting...) |
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04/22/2015 03:35:57 PM · #2 |
| 8x12 is not an uncommon frame size. Harder to find in stores but hopefully frame/art stores will stock more. I keep telling framers that 11x17 and 13x19 is standard! lol. Are these pics supposed to be prepared for an album? |
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04/22/2015 03:40:20 PM · #3 |
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04/22/2015 03:45:18 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
4x5 IS 8x10... |
I think that's what she's saying. The standard sizes should be 4x5/8x10 OR 4x6/8x12, NOT 4x6/8x10. And I couldn't agree more.
(And don't even get me started on 5x7)
Message edited by author 2015-04-22 15:46:03. |
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04/22/2015 03:51:37 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by LN13:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
4x5 IS 8x10... |
I think that's what she's saying. The standard sizes should be 4x5/8x10 OR 4x6/8x12, NOT 4x6/8x10. And I couldn't agree more.
(And don't even get me started on 5x7) |
5x7 I can deal with, because it's less of a crop. 8x10 is so ridiculous! You lose such a huge amount of the photo! (and it's not for an album -- for a frame)
11x14 isn't so great, either. |
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04/22/2015 03:51:39 PM · #6 |
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04/22/2015 03:51:45 PM · #7 |
It's not the industries fault you don't know how to leave room for cropping. :p
Message edited by author 2015-04-22 15:51:56. |
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04/22/2015 03:54:27 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Mike:
It's not the industries fault you don't know how to leave room for cropping. :p |
I shouldn't have to! They should adjust to MY needs. (well, and most of the world, actually.) The days of full frames are pretty much over. Deal with reality, people! |
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04/22/2015 03:56:15 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by Mike:
It's not the industries fault you don't know how to leave room for cropping. :p |
I shouldn't have to! They should adjust to MY needs. |
Dpc has taught you well. |
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04/22/2015 04:00:33 PM · #10 |
My understanding is that the 8x10 standard came from the use of 4x5 film cameras for most portraiture, and it's been around since the 1930's. The 2x3 35mm format was around for almost as long, perhaps longer, but it wasn't until SLR's became the serious hobbiest's choice and then it was usually the denizen of slide trays and photo albums and not frames on the walls, and when that happened you figured out what to crop or custom framed.
I tend to shoot with room to crop by default ever since I was asked to frame some shots off Flickr and spent a lot of time fiddling both a crop and using smart fill in Photoshop to add what wasn't there at the sides to get something usable in 8x10/11x14 frames.
Message edited by author 2015-04-22 16:00:50. |
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04/22/2015 04:02:41 PM · #11 |
You know it's not hard to mat your photos creatively so you can get something closer to 8x12 in a 12x16 frame.
//www.amazon.com/12x16-Super-Custom-Picture-opening/dp/B006GGA66K
Message edited by author 2015-04-22 16:03:51. |
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04/22/2015 04:07:57 PM · #12 |
| I feel for you. A photog on another forum got so tired of not finding standard 13x19 frames in stock, that he started his own frame business. Haven't ordered yet but I have it on the list as a resource to try, if anything. Framedestination.com . I was at B&H a few months ago and they had one 11x17 frame. So even they are guilty. If I need a 16x20 which is not available in sheet form, I go to a printer that prints from rolls and it's easier to find a good pre-made frame. So I try to stay away from 13x19 sheets if I can, but 11x17 is such a good size, not too big or too small and every paper manf. has all the offerings in that size. |
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04/22/2015 07:36:29 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
(and it's not for an album -- for a frame) |
If it's going to be ("properly") framed then they should be using a mat -- just make your longest side less than 10" and add a border to fill it out to 8x10 and they can cover that with the mat. |
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04/22/2015 07:55:28 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by vawendy:
(and it's not for an album -- for a frame) |
If it's going to be ("properly") framed then they should be using a mat -- just make your longest side less than 10" and add a border to fill it out to 8x10 and they can cover that with the mat. |
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We had professional family group photos done and the photographer gave it to us 2:3 (4x6) with either letterbox borders or one large border on the bottom (our choice) to bring it to 8x10. I know letterbox borders incur the wrath of God here at dpc, but the group was so large that even framing the picture 4:5 in camera would have had a ridiculous amount of space above and below the grouping so the borders were the only solution. We did not cover them with the mat though we could, of course, have had a mat cut to do just that. What the General suggests allows you to have a standard print size made though.
I actually do the opposite frequently for family album pictures that look best cropped 4:5 but that I want to print smaller. I add borders to bring the size to a 2:3 ratio and then print 4x6 LOL Depending on whether I'm slipping the photos into sleeves or pasting them into an album, I leave the borders on or I cut them off. |
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04/22/2015 08:05:44 PM · #15 |
And what you run into over and over and over again are people who do not understand ratio. They CANNOT see why a "4x6 photo" has to be CROPPED to arrive at an "8x10 photo". That is counter-intuitive for many. An "8x10" is so obviously bigger than a "4x6" :)
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04/22/2015 08:21:00 PM · #16 |
And so goes the printing nightmare....
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04/22/2015 09:05:34 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by nam:
I actually do the opposite frequently for family album pictures that look best cropped 4:5 but that I want to print smaller. I add borders to bring the size to a 2:3 ratio and then print 4x6 LOL Depending on whether I'm slipping the photos into sleeves or pasting them into an album, I leave the borders on or I cut them off. |
I usually set mine up as 8x10, then add 2 inches to the end. Costco charges the same for 8x10 and 8x12 (they're all printed 8x12 anyway), and I can fit two business cards (or other stuff) into that 2x8 space. I can then print 4x6 or 8x12 and get 4x5 or 8x10 prints plus "something else" ... |
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04/23/2015 05:50:14 PM · #18 |
| Print full frame (6x9) on an 8x10 sheet... |
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