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09/23/2004 03:57:19 AM · #1
I just wanted to make a poll for the users who voted in Team sport action (TSA).

Whould you liked to see the

1. Gray Square DQed?
2. Sunset accidental submission DQed?

For refrence here is the TSA Challenge description:
Details: A "team sport" is a contest between a group of players on one team simultaneously competing with a group of players on the other team. Your challenge: capture the action of a team sport! (For clarity, your photo does not need to contain the entire team or even multiple people, the sport you are photographing just needs to be a team sport!)

Please No Arch competition in this thread!
09/23/2004 03:58:15 AM · #2
1. DQed
2. DQed

(plz if you want it not DQed then post like this 1. not DQed, 2. not DQed)

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 03:58:36.
09/23/2004 04:03:52 AM · #3
1. Not DQed
2. Not DQed

DQ either of these and we'd have nothing to talk about! But seriously, I like the freedom of the site. Two out a few hundred entries doesn't really spoil it for anyone.
09/23/2004 04:41:27 AM · #4
Don't you know this rule?

Do not vote to disqualify an image for misinterpretation of the challenge.

So there's no reason to be disqualified, afaik the grey square had a dq request and was aproved!
09/23/2004 04:42:27 AM · #5
Copied from the other thread about this:
'If the SC have to start removing photos for not meeting the challenge, this would be a very slippery road. Where would you draw the line? Some are obvious, many are not. Can you imagine how much time this would take? Loads of photos would have to be voted on... some of them meeting the challenge controversially. How about shots that have been shoehorned in by a good title? Many shots use the challenge topic in a creative way, and do not fit in an obvious 'black and white' way. What a can of worms this would become.'

I think it's very sad that some people's sensibilities have been so offended by these 2 photos. This sort of thing has been going on here forever... and it's not like either of these pictures ribboned or anything.

Edit: Oh yeah!
1. Not DQed
2. Not DQed

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 04:42:55.
09/23/2004 04:46:02 AM · #6
1. Not DQed
2. Not DQed

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 04:46:28.
09/23/2004 04:46:08 AM · #7
1. DQed
2. Not DQed

Take away the border and the grey square is not visible, so it cannot be contrived as an image,

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 04:46:23.
09/23/2004 04:52:13 AM · #8
1. Not DQed
2. Not DQed

I thought grey square was actually a pretty interesting concept after thinking about it for awhile. It was definetly out-of-the-box thinking and a unique approach.

The sunset has no reason to be disqualified. Sure it blatently doesn't meet the challenge, but probably 2-5% of the photos in any given challenge don't really meet the challenge. If the submitter were allowed to self-DQ themselves, eventually you'd run into the problem of people withdrawing simply to keep their submission off their record.
09/23/2004 05:01:02 AM · #9
Originally posted by peecee:

1. DQed
2. Not DQed

Take away the border and the grey square is not visible, so it cannot be contrived as an image,


It was taken with a digital camera, has exif info, and was converted using electrical impulses from a CCD.
09/23/2004 05:06:18 AM · #10
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

Originally posted by peecee:

1. DQed
2. Not DQed

Take away the border and the grey square is not visible, so it cannot be contrived as an image,


It was taken with a digital camera, has exif info, and was converted using electrical impulses from a CCD.


:) we are splitting hairs now Bob,
09/23/2004 05:06:49 AM · #11
My personal opinion is:

1 - No DQ - If the photog thought it met the challenge enough to enter it, then I have no reason to want it removed.
2 - No DQ - We sometimes make mistakes when submitting photos, but its up to us to ensure that we've uploaded the right photo for the right challenge, and it shouldn't be left to others to correct our oversights... and I bet inede won't upload the wrong image in future ;o)
09/23/2004 05:08:33 AM · #12
1. not dqed
2. not dqed
09/23/2004 05:21:29 AM · #13
Originally posted by peecee:

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

Originally posted by peecee:

1. DQed
2. Not DQed

Take away the border and the grey square is not visible, so it cannot be contrived as an image,


It was taken with a digital camera, has exif info, and was converted using electrical impulses from a CCD.


:) we are splitting hairs now Bob,


Hardly splitting hairs... you said it wasn't an image. I'm saying it is very fundamentally an image. How is that splitting hairs?
Anyway, I think that the extra work that the sc would be faced with if they had to respond to every request for a dq due to not meeting the challenge means that there's no way that these photos will be dq'ed.
09/23/2004 05:24:15 AM · #14
1. Not DQ'd
2. Not DQ'd
09/23/2004 05:28:07 AM · #15
1. not DQed
2. not DQed
09/23/2004 05:34:19 AM · #16
1. no DQ
2. no DQ

Interesting, I think both of them placed exactly where they should have:) People will always enter images that are not linked to the challenge and normally they are voted for accordingly.
09/23/2004 05:43:42 AM · #17
1. Not DQ'ed
2. Not DQ'ed.

Please be aware that when disqualifying an image, we quote the rule that was violated in the notice to the user who submitted it. There is nothing in the Challenge Rules (NOT the challenge description) or the Terms of Service that allows for disqualification for not meeting the challenge. I challenge anyone who thinks these images should be DQ'ed to find me a rule under which to do it.

In the very early days of DPChallenge, not meeting the challenge was grounds for disqualification. It quickly became clear that there was a huge grey area involved do people to stretch the challenge topics quite a bit. It also quickly became clear that voters were doing a pretty good job of dealing with those entries anyway, so it was decided that DQ's would no longer be considered for not meeting the challenge.

-Terry

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 05:44:22.
09/23/2004 05:44:00 AM · #18
1. Not DQed
2. Not DQed

As per rules, not meeting the challenge is not justification for a DQ. Further more, both were edited within the rules.
09/23/2004 05:46:17 AM · #19
1. No DQ
2. No DQ

I think we leave the sleeping dog lie. The images meet the basic editting rules and they were scored on their merits in this challenge. We aren't entering to win money and these images don't detracted from the experience of being members of this cool site. I, like others on this site have a sense of humour and know a joke when we see it.

These posts do more damage than the images themselves!
09/23/2004 05:56:40 AM · #20
This reminds me of a fairy tale of a little yellow chickend that wanted to make bread. Don't know if anyone else knows it.

And the SC said I don't want to help..
(where are the jedy knights when you need them)

Originally posted by Manic:

...and it shouldn't be left to others to correct our oversights...


Rules can be changed the same way they where made and for the same reson to make this a better place.

Message edited by author 2004-09-23 05:59:39.
09/23/2004 06:43:09 AM · #21
Originally posted by siggi:

Rules can be changed the same way they where made and for the same reson to make this a better place.


DPC used to disqualify for not meeting the challenge. It caused more problems then it solved. The rule was changed, and this is a better place.

-Terry
09/23/2004 06:46:25 AM · #22
1. Not DQed
2. Not DQed
09/23/2004 06:51:15 AM · #23
Results so far...

Shot 1 (grey square):

DQ votes: 2
NoDQ votes: 12

Shot 2 (sunset):

DQ votes: 1
No DQ votes: 13

I'd say that's pretty conclusive at this stage.
09/23/2004 06:56:12 AM · #24
I don't think anyone of us fancy low scores. If there's an image in a challenge which has nothing to do with the theme, for any reason, it's most likely to get a terrible score. I think voting as we do now is good enough. None of us lost a spot because of a grey box.
09/23/2004 07:00:49 AM · #25
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by siggi:

Rules can be changed the same way they where made and for the same reson to make this a better place.


DPC used to disqualify for not meeting the challenge. It caused more problems then it solved. The rule was changed, and this is a better place.

-Terry


Isn't it possible to find some midle ground?
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