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06/11/2014 06:40:00 AM · #1 |
Top 6 and not one comment during voting. I'm not fishing for comments, just thought it was strange for top 6. I think this has only happened to me once before.
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06/11/2014 06:41:24 AM · #2 |
Welcome to the club!
My profile page now shows three images in the top 10 that go no comments during voting. It was strange at first, now it's just sad :( |
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06/11/2014 06:50:14 AM · #3 |
| LOL! At least your in the top.. I always seem to be consistantly on the top bottom, I will trade your top for my bottoms.. comments or not, congrats.. for myself, I don't seek out for those glory comments.. your pictures were highly thought of :-)) |
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06/11/2014 08:08:57 AM · #4 |
| Annoying to do so well and not get a comment esp during voting, but you'll probably get some now it's post-challenge and in the top ten. |
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06/11/2014 08:09:46 AM · #5 |
I chalk it up to folks being busy with summer here in the N hemisphere.
The quality of images is, in general, up, I think. (How's that for a strong statement?) |
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06/11/2014 11:52:42 AM · #6 |
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06/11/2014 02:34:55 PM · #7 |
| This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
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06/11/2014 02:58:10 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
True enough, but if everyone provided honest comments there might be more comments which, in some instances, might be matched by a significant amount of truly disgruntled people.
Ray |
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06/11/2014 03:01:46 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by posthumous:
This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
True enough, but if everyone provided honest comments there might be more comments which, in some instances, might be matched by a significant amount of truly disgruntled people.
Ray |
There you go again, attributing logic to DPC.
When're you gonna learn Ray? DPC follows no logic but it's own voter paradox. A problem created and fed by itself. |
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06/11/2014 03:07:09 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by posthumous:
This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
True enough, but if everyone provided honest comments there might be more comments which, in some instances, might be matched by a significant amount of truly disgruntled people.
Ray |
Are there really that many outrageously insulting or offensive comments given as the forum complaints seemm to imply? I have over 10k comments and I can't recall ever getting one, and I certainly have plenty of photos with plenty to criticize ... |
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06/11/2014 04:49:01 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by posthumous:
This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
True enough, but if everyone provided honest comments there might be more comments which, in some instances, might be matched by a significant amount of truly disgruntled people.
Ray |
Are there really that many outrageously insulting or offensive comments given as the forum complaints seemm to imply? I have over 10k comments and I can't recall ever getting one, and I certainly have plenty of photos with plenty to criticize ... |
Don't forget, Ray's sentence contains an if, two mights and an in some instances.
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06/11/2014 05:01:29 PM · #12 |
well I try and comment 1 challenge each week, Time and tide has thwarted me of late and some of the sheer numbers as well.
the amount of commenters seems to be down as well. |
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06/11/2014 05:18:37 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by posthumous:
This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
True enough, but if everyone provided honest comments there might be more comments which, in some instances, might be matched by a significant amount of truly disgruntled people.
Ray |
Are there really that many outrageously insulting or offensive comments given as the forum complaints seemm to imply? I have over 10k comments and I can't recall ever getting one, and I certainly have plenty of photos with plenty to criticize ... |
I'm all for honest feedback, and I fear not this possibility of a minimal amount of comments being hurtful. I mean no ill will when I comment, and I assume the same for everyone else until proven otherwise.
In fact, I gave General some criticism the other day on a photo, and he thanked me. I give out a lot of critical comments, and I can only recall one person who didn't like it. Granted, this individual is known for that sort of thing, so whatever.
It's all in how you word your criticism. If you say, "This photo sucks", then yes, someone is going to be upset. I've found though, if you take time to explain where you think a photo could be improved, people are often very thankful. I don't get many PMs, but when I do. . . they usually begin with "Thank you." The message I got from General today began that way. I wasn't even very tactful (for me) with my comment on his photo; I just stated what I was seeing.
Take time with your critical comments, really look at the photo, and think about what you've typed before you submit. Have you tried to see the photo from their perspective? Explain what you see when you look at their photo. Does the photo have motion blur? Did they mean to do that? In the past I've said something like, "This photo has motion blur that doesn't seem to be intentional." Compare that to, "too blurry" or "use a tripod." There is a slim chance that the blur was intentional, so by saying "doesn't seem to be" shows that you're not completely closed to the idea that it was intentional. You can then add, "If this wasn't intentional, consider using a tripod with long exposures."
I've found (here and in real life), most people don't get upset when they understand why you've said what you've said. Explain yourself... |
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06/11/2014 05:27:16 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by posthumous:
This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
True enough, but if everyone provided honest comments there might be more comments which, in some instances, might be matched by a significant amount of truly disgruntled people.
Ray |
Are there really that many outrageously insulting or offensive comments given as the forum complaints seemm to imply? I have over 10k comments and I can't recall ever getting one, and I certainly have plenty of photos with plenty to criticize ... |
No. But we live in a community filled with very sensitive individuals who have never actually had to deal with harsh criticism and brutal honesty, so even the most velvet gloved critiques can spawn unexpected reactions. |
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06/11/2014 06:50:27 PM · #15 |
| Like I said originally, I'm not fishing for comments. |
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06/11/2014 06:54:35 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Like I said originally, I'm not fishing for comments. |
Are people biting? ;-) |
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06/11/2014 08:54:32 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Like I said originally, I'm not fishing for comments. |
I was just teasin ya, Karen. I'll replace my smartass, non-helpful comment with something substantive later this evening. :) |
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06/11/2014 09:25:57 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Like I said originally, I'm not fishing for comments. |
I was just teasin ya, Karen. I'll replace my smartass, non-helpful comment with something substantive later this evening. :) |
I knew it was a joke. Don't worry about it. :) |
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06/12/2014 12:53:51 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by posthumous:
This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
True enough, but if everyone provided honest comments there might be more comments which, in some instances, might be matched by a significant amount of truly disgruntled people.
Ray |
Are there really that many outrageously insulting or offensive comments given as the forum complaints seemm to imply? I have over 10k comments and I can't recall ever getting one, and I certainly have plenty of photos with plenty to criticize ... |
No. But we live in a community filled with very sensitive individuals who have never actually had to deal with harsh criticism and brutal honesty, so even the most velvet gloved critiques can spawn unexpected reactions. |
An obvious amount of them have never worked for an editor. Talk about the harshest critic available....especially when you are on deadline. You learn to get thick skin quick.
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06/12/2014 04:36:22 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
This is a good point. Some photographs are unquestionably very good photography, yet they've been done so many times now that there's nothing much left to say about them. That's not to entirely dismiss those photographs, but it does suggest that some commenters, probably many commenters, have become more 'sophisticated' (or perhaps jaded), and are now only moved to remark on things that take them by surprise or delight them. That doesn't mean that they don't acknowledge good technical work (hence high scores), but rather that they often can't think of anything fresh to say (hence fewer comments on those safe but oft-tread themes). Very good photography can still result in unremarkable photographs. And vice-versa.
Further down the heap in most challenges there are photographs of more interest, photographs that are more remarkable in that they actively provoke reactions both approving and disapproving. And those are the photographs that will get the most comments – and the most interesting comments – during voting. It's just evolution, isn't it? It's the random variations and the unexpected aberrations that end up being decisive in shaping the future, even though most of them do lead to oblivion. |
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07/26/2014 01:53:01 PM · #21 |
| Well, for the 1st time ever, I haven't received a comment on one of my challenges. :( Was interesting to see that. Oh well, we go on. |
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07/26/2014 05:49:48 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
This proves that the qualities that generate a high average score are not the same as the qualities that evoke comments. |
(I would have said "provoke" or "elicit").
This is surely worth a lot of pondering. |
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07/26/2014 09:08:22 PM · #23 |
| I usually comment on 10 - 20%, but life... I even missed voting on a whole challenge. I will try to get back into commenting. I know I appreciate when I get comments, so I should try and pay that back. |
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