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09/15/2004 10:49:36 PM · #1 |
I have found that I spend at least an hour, some times several hours, on each photo to get results I'm looking for. I'm new to PS and I'm still getting used to using it. What steps do you go through to process from color to B&W or even Doutone? I have heard of automating portions of the procedure. How is this done? Any help or links would be great.
Software I'm using now is PS CS, NeatImage and PSP 7. |
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09/15/2004 11:02:12 PM · #2 |
Hi ! First sorry for my poor english.
I have PS 7 but I suppose that it's the same.
Open file , Image -- Mode -- Grayscale
For Duotone , do it and then Image--Mode--Duotone . Here you can choose when the window opens Monotone , Duotone , etc.
For more information (and more complete) look in other threads and have a look at LEARN (right , up in the web page) , TUTORIALS.
Hope this could help you.
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09/15/2004 11:27:43 PM · #3 |
DoFear,
Absolutely everyone has a different technique with which to tackle desaturations. And of course, to make matters worse, there's always at least three different ways to tackle any task in Photoshop, and in this case, there are at least seven basic techniques that I know of. If I could, I would upload a tutorial (PDF) that I did a while back for another website on this very topic. But they won't let me do that here. ;) I'll give you the really quick rundown here, but if you want the tutorial, just let me know via PM and I'll be happy to email it out.
- clean your image as you normally would to bring out the absolute best color image you can
- add a Levels Adjustment layer above your picture layer, but don't make any changes to it
- add a Channel Mixer Adjustment layer above the Level layer, and click monochrome. Play with the sliders to your heart's content, but until you have a bit more of a handle on the technique, keep your total channel saturation to (plus)100. This could mean (plus)100 on any single channel, or it could mean any combination that adds to 100.
- if you have good, defined blacks where they should be in the shot, try tweaking your Levels layer a bit to bring out the subject to its best. If you don't have satisfying blacks, move your Levels layer to _above_ your Mixer layer, and bring up your shadows slider until you're happy with it.
- check out any of the camera reviews at www.dpreview.com . Here, you'll find a "poor man's monitor calibration scale", but it works quite well for making sure your screen is balanced for this type of work. I spent 6 months working on a monitor that was about 20% darker than it should have been, and never realized it until a friend pointed out a large grey box around one of my edits! It had looked black to me!
- And if you're doing a simple doutone, one of the best ways I've figured out how to handle it is to add a Hue/Saturation Adjustment layer above all the rest of the stack and just click "colorize", then adjust to taste.
Hope this is a reasonable answer to your question.
Oh, and Mambe... True, mode change is pretty much the first desaturation technique that everyone learns in Photoshop -- I used it for years. But come to find out you'r stripping 2/3's of your resolution data out of your shot when you do that! The same holds true for Doutone Mode as well, but to a slightly lesser degree. If you're really happy with what simply changing the mode gives you, try Image > Adjustments > Desaturate instead; all the same great resolution, but only half the carbs... Oh, wait... I'm channelling soda commercials again! ARGH! :: huge grin ::
Message edited by author 2004-09-15 23:29:10. |
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09/15/2004 11:29:36 PM · #4 |
| Hey - we have the same camera (so few of us)... I'm totally new to PS and fumbling my way around. I do what Mambe said, but I also read somewhere, probably in a tutorial here, that there are some "preset" duo/tri/quad tones available. I don't have PS available right now, but I think that once you convert your image to grayscale and open up the Duotone window there's a button that says "load" and if you click on that you will be able to find the presets. The folders should come up automatically, but if they don't I found mine in my PS files under program files. There are quite a few of them and I just play around with them, some of them are so close it's hard to tell the difference. Hope this helps, as I said, I'm a definite PS novice. |
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09/15/2004 11:38:41 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by 16point2mm:
Oh, and Mambe... True, mode change is pretty much the first desaturation technique that everyone learns in Photoshop -- I used it for years. But come to find out you'r stripping 2/3's of your resolution data out of your shot when you do that! The same holds true for Doutone Mode as well, but to a slightly lesser degree. If you're really happy with what simply changing the mode gives you, try Image > Adjustments > Desaturate instead; all the same great resolution, but only half the carbs... Oh, wait... I'm channelling soda commercials again! ARGH! :: huge grin :: |
Hi Jake ,
I was just trying to indicate how to go to Duotones ... :-)
Be sure that I appreciate your reply and I hope you don't mind if I send you a mail , I'm very interested ! |
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09/15/2004 11:43:00 PM · #6 |
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09/16/2004 01:21:35 AM · #7 |
Wow. Great stuff from all. How about automation or is it more correct to call that "Batch Processing"?
Tuckersmom. I really do like my Optio. I had not intention of doing any phtography but after reading the manual I started playing around and got hooked. I'm going to buy the 300D soon, but I'm not getting rid of my Optio. It's so compact I can take it with me anywere. In fact I always have it with me. |
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09/16/2004 02:38:44 AM · #8 |
A recent thread on a related subject you may find interesting, "Black and White Conversions".
David
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09/16/2004 02:40:53 AM · #9 |
DoFear,
Batch processing is pretty easy to do. I'm a fan of working each shot seperately, just because I find that no two shots are just the same. That said, and I know this might come as a shock, but the Photoshop help files are TERRIFIC in describing how to set up an automated process.
I will say this, though. It's pretty damn helpful to set up what I call a "half automation". This would open each file, add the requisite layers, set them to an approximate starting point, and then you can tweak each one from there. Make sense?
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