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09/03/2013 12:32:36 PM · #1
Extraordinary half-hour documentary from director Werner Herzog on the real-world consequences of texting while driving. Should be required viewing for all teenagers IMO...
09/03/2013 12:38:58 PM · #2
The "good" news is that more and more teens are deferring getting a license/driving until they get a bit older.
09/03/2013 12:41:51 PM · #3
And thank goodness for that...
09/03/2013 12:58:58 PM · #4
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Extraordinary half-hour documentary from director Werner Herzog on the real-world consequences of texting while driving. Should be required viewing for all teenagers required viewing for all drivers IMO...

just a little editing ;-)

thanks for posting.
09/03/2013 01:08:30 PM · #5
I think all drivers should be required to watch about two hours of automobile accidents each year. (By the way, don't we live in an amazingly well recorded world? View from opposite direction)
09/03/2013 01:13:48 PM · #6
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Extraordinary half-hour documentary from director Werner Herzog on the real-world consequences of texting while driving. Should be required viewing for all teenagers IMO...


What a heart wrenching video. I agree with Skip ... all drivers should view. Whatever it is ... it can wait!

My parents always told me that speeding won't get you there faster if you get pulled over ... Same premise applies here. No texting while driving! It can wait!

I really feel for the horse shoer in this. The texter may have caused the accident but that poor guy hit them. oh man!
09/03/2013 01:21:45 PM · #7
Originally posted by Cory:

I think all drivers should be required to watch about two hours of automobile accidents each year. (By the way, don't we live in an amazingly well recorded world? View from opposite direction)


OMG... I didn't realize until reading some of the comments, that a person was flying through the air above the accident in that video.
09/03/2013 01:45:07 PM · #8
Laws are in place to prevent this irresponsible behavior but they're not enforced. At least not in Boston, but then again these are the most self-centered drivers I've ever seen in my life, and even the cops drive around staring at the touchscreen devices set up in their cars instead of the road.

I walk all over this town with a stroller and it is impossible to make eye contact with any driver around a crosswalk. They are all texting/surfing/whatever. The same camera used to snap photos of people that run red lights should be used to enforce this as well.
09/03/2013 01:54:04 PM · #9
Originally posted by bohemka:

Laws are in place to prevent this irresponsible behavior but they're not enforced. At least not in Boston, but then again these are the most self-centered drivers I've ever seen in my life, and even the cops drive around staring at the touchscreen devices set up in their cars instead of the road.

I walk all over this town with a stroller and it is impossible to make eye contact with any driver around a crosswalk. They are all texting/surfing/whatever. The same camera used to snap photos of people that run red lights should be used to enforce this as well.


Hey, I'm a German. We love automobiles. :) So much so that it seems a shame to me that we ignore the driving experience so often these days.

I say any distraction while driving should be outlawed.

No radio, phone, GPS, Maps, Texting, talking to friends, etc.

The driver should be seated away from the passengers to prevent distractions, and the children should be kept in a sound-isolated compartment to prevent distraction. (I've been hit by a woman paying attention to her children instead of the road)

Also, windows and sound barriers that insulate the driver from outside noise need to be outlawed as well - you should hear what's going on outside your vehicle.

And finally, a poorly maintained vehicle should be treated as a criminal offense, with jail-time penalties. The accident I posted above was caused by poor brake maintenance as best as I can discern, followed up by distracted driving.

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Now - that's the cost of safety. Are you in, or are you out? Because if you're somewhere in between, consider yourself out - you don't really care about safety.

My point is this: You CAN text while you're driving at least somewhat safely (at least as safely as changing the radio, or futzing with the heater), and probably more so if you use the voice-features of modern phones (no need to type, just talk!)..

So, for those who wish to outlaw this: I support you - but don't stop with just this half-measure. Distractions are distractions, no matter what the source, and distractions kill.

Message edited by author 2013-09-03 13:54:46.
09/03/2013 02:04:15 PM · #10
The only thing missing from your list is the requirement to wear a uniform/cap/tie while driving ... :-)

What I really want to ban are those speakers (in other cars) which make it so that I can't hear the ambulance siren ...
09/03/2013 02:12:11 PM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:

The only thing missing from your list is the requirement to wear a uniform/cap/tie while driving ... :-)

What I really want to ban are those speakers (in other cars) which make it so that I can't hear the ambulance siren ...


While we're banning things can we also outlaw radio stations that use sirens in their programming? It's bad enough when the sirens can't be heard but to cry "wolf" is a dangerous thing too...
09/03/2013 03:02:39 PM · #12
that was quite a work - the Herzog video. the forgiveness was astounding. but how long it will take us to really pay attention is something else. (cameras to the back seat or luggage).
09/03/2013 03:05:53 PM · #13
Originally posted by GeneralE:

The only thing missing from your list is the requirement to wear a uniform/cap/tie while driving ... :-)

What I really want to ban are those speakers (in other cars) which make it so that I can't hear the ambulance siren ...


You can take solace in the fact that the owners are deafening themselves.
09/03/2013 03:33:42 PM · #14
Originally posted by bohemka:

Laws are in place to prevent this irresponsible behavior but they're not enforced. At least not in Boston, but then again these are the most self-centered drivers I've ever seen in my life, and even the cops drive around staring at the touchscreen devices set up in their cars instead of the road...(snip)

For goodness sake, don't ever come to California. People, on Highway One, where cliffs are on one side and on the other side, way down there is the Pacific, have been known to drive off the road while adjusting the radio.

Message edited by author 2013-09-03 15:34:38.
09/03/2013 04:34:14 PM · #15
Possibly my biggest pet peeve!!

I agree with Cory, in that any non-driving activity that makes you take your eyes off the road for more than a second is a blatant disregard for safety and of other people's lives.

So many people TRULY believe they're "different" and believe they're able to multitask behind the wheel. That is not possible, because it's not just your eyes you're taking off the road - it's your entire brain, which is taking in a message, trying to come up with a clever response, balancing the phone in one hand and trying to type with just the thumb, etc. And the brain controls our body and our physical reactions. We become, for the entire extent of our texting, completely detached from the driving experience, no matter what anyone says.

On the highway, I can spot someone picking up the phone or texting, from 10 cars back: their speed becomes variable and/or unresponsive to surrounding traffic conditions; they slow waaaaaay down (15-20 mph), they start weaving. On surface streets, they'll sit through half the green light before they react or someone beeps at them (usually ME!!!). As a pedestrian, I've lost count of the number of times a texter would have run me or some other person over if we hadn't been watching for them.

Driving is a privilege, and one fraught with life and death consequences, even when we are paying attention. That video is a stark reminder that lots can happen in the "one second" we take our eyes off the road.
09/03/2013 04:58:34 PM · #16
It's not the teens that I see texting. The woman who almost ran me off the road awhile back was my age. :(
09/03/2013 09:06:17 PM · #17
MuthBusters demonstrated that texting while driving is akin to driving drunk.

I have Bluetooth in my car for hands free voice. Though if the call is going to take more than a moment, I pull over.

I don't know how anyone can text and drive. With my big fingers and those tiny keys, it is a struggle even sitting in a chair, let alone in a moving vehicle. Some must have really skinny fingers.
09/03/2013 09:11:41 PM · #18
Originally posted by ambaker:

MuthBusters demonstrated that texting while driving is akin to driving drunk.

I have Bluetooth in my car for hands free voice. Though if the call is going to take more than a moment, I pull over.

I don't know how anyone can text and drive. With my big fingers and those tiny keys, it is a struggle even sitting in a chair, let alone in a moving vehicle. Some must have really skinny fingers.


I do text and drive - I admit it.

Now, to be fair, it's almost always in a spot where conditions are highly predictable, and I use voice typing. (think remote highway, essentially no other traffic)

I don't find it any more dangerous than making a call (which I also do with voice)..

*shrug* I might be a bad person, but I tend to view it as a manageable risk, and much like shooting a gun, the choice of location makes a huge difference in the wisdom of doing so.
09/03/2013 09:18:26 PM · #19
I was just rear ended by a lady in Pittsburgh a little over a week ago. I was stopped in the left lane with my blinker on, waiting for the on-coming traffic to let up so I could turn left into a parking lot. I just caught her coming out of the corner of my eye but it was too late. After the impact I could see her phone in her right hand through my rear view mirror...needles to day, I wasn't happy!
09/03/2013 09:53:55 PM · #20
Here in Australia it has been illegal to drive whilst talking or texting on your mobile for a number of years now. If caught (in Queensland not sure on other states) you are fined around $300 I believe and you may also loose points on your licence. They have also recently toughened up and your phone must not be within reach in the car, or placed in a special "cradle' mounted to the dash. As owners of an auto accessories store Its pleasing to see sales of Bluetooth devices has most definitely increased substantially which means a lot of people are doing the right thing, however most days I will still see people of all ages driving and using their phones. But the whole contradiction to this situation I find is that the latest audio/visual units they sell today including the ones that are standard in most new cars, are touch screen and have access to so many different functions and applications, seriously, how is that not any less distracting, yet they remain legal??.
09/03/2013 10:19:31 PM · #21
Originally posted by thrumyiis:

But the whole contradiction to this situation I find is that the latest audio/visual units they sell today including the ones that are standard in most new cars, are touch screen and have access to so many different functions and applications, seriously, how is that not any less distracting, yet they remain legal??.


I, too, am scratching my head at these technological "developments". It's one thing to have a screen in the back for the back seat passengers. Another to have it on the dash for the driver to catch up on Miley's twerking while they're driving... If our Highway Patrol has anything to say about it, it will be a short lived fad, much like the different colored headlights that were popular a few years ago.
09/03/2013 11:30:11 PM · #22
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by thrumyiis:

But the whole contradiction to this situation I find is that the latest audio/visual units they sell today including the ones that are standard in most new cars, are touch screen and have access to so many different functions and applications, seriously, how is that not any less distracting, yet they remain legal??.


I, too, am scratching my head at these technological "developments". It's one thing to have a screen in the back for the back seat passengers. Another to have it on the dash for the driver to catch up on Miley's twerking while they're driving... If our Highway Patrol has anything to say about it, it will be a short lived fad, much like the different colored headlights that were popular a few years ago.


I've been wondering that for some time. I dread having to replace our old (very old) car; too many standard mod cons to distract.
09/03/2013 11:37:28 PM · #23
I would never text while driving - I'd have to put my reading glasses on, for a start. (Actually, I very rarely text at all, being some kind of social pariah...)
09/03/2013 11:54:24 PM · #24
Don't worry. I'm only sleeping at the lights.
09/04/2013 10:25:35 AM · #25
Thanks for the link Bear!

Whoever invents a method to prevent texting while the engine of a car is running will make a fortune. The government will make it mandatory.

Seems impossible but someone will figure it out.
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