Frames, Borders & Expert Rules - DPChallenge Forums

04/16/2013 12:26:33 PM · #1

I know this has been discussed but I can't find it. In the expert rules it says no clip art. It seems like I remember a discussion about pre-made frames like they have in Paint Shop Pro considered clip art and against the rule set. Can anyone help me out here?

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/16/2013 01:51:40 PM · #2

Bump

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

04/16/2013 01:57:54 PM · #3

I've been dq'd for using them (in advanced, not expert), but I think the rule reads the same.

Message edited by author 2013-04-16 13:58:05.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

04/16/2013 02:00:06 PM · #4

Originally posted by Kelli:

I've been dq'd for using them (in advanced, not expert), but I think the rule reads the same.

I thought I remembered that. Well...*%$#&!!!!

BrennanOB

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

04/16/2013 02:02:33 PM · #5

Keep in mind you can use elements of any legal image to create the frame you want in expert. If you can make a unicorn, you can assemble the border of your dreams. You just can't use the work of others.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

04/16/2013 04:53:00 PM · #6

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Thanks Brennan. I'm not that skilled though! :)

BrennanOB

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

04/16/2013 04:58:08 PM · #7

what's the frame look like? maybe this could become a how to thread.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/16/2013 05:08:17 PM · #8

It's kind of like this but has white around the outside of the black. Real old and vintage looking.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

04/16/2013 05:19:39 PM · #9

Originally posted by Hipychik:

It's kind of like this but has white around the outside of the black. Real old and vintage looking.

I'd try something like this:
-Try making a layer with irregular shapes -- fill with a couple of gradients and run the Clouds filter or something.
-Select All, then make a border as many pixels wide as you want the border.
-Create a Curves or Levels Adjustment layer; on its Mask layer use your cloudy shape to fill the selection (or maybe use it to subtract from the selection -- (I'm making this up without trying it out) -- you are trying to create an irregular edge around the inner edge of the selection. You could also just paint into it instead of making the "could" layer.
-finally, use the Adjustment layer to darken the edges -- you are basically creating an irregular vignette

You could also make a "protective" selection around the inner part of the picture, and just go around the outside usng the burn too aggressively.

The white outside the black you make afterward, enlarging the Canvas (don't forget to allow for that when re-sizing!).

BrennanOB

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

04/16/2013 05:31:20 PM · #10

I got this one by shooting an old picture I found and getting rid of the original image and cloning and erasing, burning and dodging

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

04/16/2013 05:42:27 PM · #11

Ahhh! Great idea. Both of you! Thanks! I'll just have to experiment I guess.

Message edited by author 2013-04-16 17:42:37.

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

04/16/2013 06:16:27 PM · #12

Still sounds more difficult than just using the PSP frames option. :-) I would have sworn that was legal to use (it's a border). Plus I thought I've seen it used before (whether they were validated or not is a different story I guess.

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

04/16/2013 06:26:05 PM · #13

I have seen many clip art borders used in non-Expert editing challenges and they appear to have been allowed.

Originally posted by glad2badad: