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08/21/2004 03:15:27 AM · #1 |
Here's kind of a cool thing that I noticed today when I went to check-up on one of my (neglected) websites... At least in the viewers I target (it's an Anime AOL Instant Messanger icon site), Internet Explorer is BY FAR the most used webbrowser:
//counter48.bravenet.com/index.php?id=347486&type=browser&usernum=4105714219
This counter has been running since August 28, 2001 and I've had 41,473 unique pageviews and 41,835 including repeats (which for me as a small website builder is HUGE!!)
Web Browsers - Visitors - % Total
AOL - 4050 - 9.68 %
Internet Explorer - 26 - 0.06 %
Internet Explorer 4.x - 284 - 0.68 %
Internet Explorer 5.x - 12307 - 29.42 %
Internet Explorer 6.x - 23662 - 56.56 %
Safari - 21 - 0.05 %
Netscape 3.x - 191 - 0.46 %
Netscape 4.x - 609 - 1.46 %
Netscape 6.x - 211 - 0.50 %
Netscape 7.x - 22 - 0.05 %
Mozilla - 31 - 0.07 %
Opera - 42 - 0.10 %
Opera - 7.x - 6 0.01 %
Konqueror - 6 - 0.01 %
Unknown Browser - 27 - 0.06 %
What about you guys? What browser do you use? I'm on IE 6.x and my dad likes Netscape (whatever the newest version is).
Message edited by author 2004-08-21 03:24:12.
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08/21/2004 03:18:31 AM · #2 |
I'm on Safari.
Love it. It's about 50 times better than IE.
I've been thinking about switching to Mozilla, but I'm happy with Safari. I got my mom on Mozilla though at her place. She likes it way better than IE, which she's be using for a long time.
Message edited by author 2004-08-21 03:18:57. |
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08/21/2004 03:26:25 AM · #3 |
Firefox :)
It's 51 times better than IE!
Message edited by author 2004-08-21 03:26:38. |
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08/21/2004 03:26:45 AM · #4 |
I am using mozilla firefox. I like its adblock features, plus unix like text/link search, aliases and ofcourse tabs. Tabs for sure is very convenient and you won't know how it is unless you use it :)
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08/21/2004 03:30:48 AM · #5 |
| I'm currently trying out firefox as well. So far so good. |
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08/21/2004 03:33:09 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Ami Yuy:
Internet Explorer 5.x - 12307 - 29.42 %
Internet Explorer 6.x - 23662 - 56.56 %
What about you guys? What browser do you use? |
What do you want us to say? Approximately 55% of us use IE 6, 30% of us use IE 5.. You've got the statistics.. |
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08/21/2004 03:36:54 AM · #7 |
Lol, well considering this site targets an almost completely different demographic than mine (I'm pretty sure), I was just curious. ^_^
I figure that the people who view my site are mainly teens from the ages of 12-19, maybe even 20s, but not nearly as many of those above that as here on DPC.
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08/21/2004 03:43:19 AM · #8 |
| I'm on Konqueror 3.3. It's what Apple copied for Safari ;) Firefox is a solid browser, too, but somewhat lacking in features (no split-screen, no desktop integration, can't open new tabs from email or IMs, won't let me upload to some photo sites...). I suppose that's the aim of Firefox developers -- less "bloat" than Mozilla. IE has been left in the dust by pretty much every modern browser. |
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08/21/2004 05:15:03 AM · #9 |
I am using Mozilla Firefox also. Ironically, I am downloading the upgrade from version 0.8 to 0.9.3 right now.
I find that Firefox has superior features, especially the downloading and pop-up blocker, as well as having virtually no security issues.
Internet Explorer often locked up for me and also constantly has security issues.
I had briefly used the full Mozilla edition, but for strictly a browser, I have found Firefox is the best. |
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08/21/2004 06:51:19 AM · #10 |
I'm a mozilla bugtester, so I kinda use moz a lot ;o) It's amazing how much it's improved over the last 4 years. I used phoenix/firebird/firefox for a short while, but missed the wider range of settings that moz allows you to control, so switched back to the heavyweight.
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08/21/2004 08:56:09 AM · #11 |
If I were you, I would switch immediately and irrevocably to Mozilla. Unfortunately, you will end up finding a few web-sites that won't work, but those are usually limited to sites with forms that you would need to fill out.
Internet Explorer is extremely dangerous to use for web-surfing. I don't have the time right this moment, but the last few recent exploits for that Web Browser allow web-sites that may have been hacked or purposefully setup to take over your computer. These could install password stealers, keystroke loggers and any number of other things.
The 'thing' among certain criminal hackers these days is to insert such code into an otherwise innocuous web-site. You and everyone else that visits that site won't see or notice a difference, but Internet Explorer will and it will happily make whatever changes to your computer that the web-site's malicious code tells it to do.
This was something covered by several national news organizations a few weeks before the Olympics started. As far as I know, Microsoft still hasn't released a fix for this particularly devilish exploit in their Web Browser.
Now, just to be fair, there was a similar issue with Mozilla 1.7.1, which actually exploited the same component of Windows and it would only work on Windows computers, but that was fixed with the near immediate release of Mozilla 1.7.2.
I seriously recomend switching to Mozilla 1.7.2 for everyday web browsing and only use Internet Explorer is you really, really have to.
Click this for Mozilla |
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08/21/2004 09:04:19 AM · #12 |
Mozilla Firefox here too
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08/21/2004 09:06:55 AM · #13 |
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08/21/2004 09:08:40 AM · #14 |
| I'm also a Mozilla user, switched from IE a year or so ago. I can't remember the last time I ran into a site that wouldn't work for me. From a security perspective, it is the wise move - but the tabbed browsing is what I love. Don't know what tabbed browsing is? Give Mozilla (or firefox) a try! |
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08/21/2004 09:23:28 AM · #15 |
I'm on Firefox as well, for some time now. Very nice and (mostly) stable.
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08/21/2004 10:24:24 AM · #16 |
Safari (with Netscape and IE installed for testing websites only).
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08/21/2004 10:51:05 AM · #17 |
For PC its Opera, for Mac its Safari, for Linux its Mozilla.
Don't put too much creedance in those numbers. There are several browsers out there (Opera is a good example) that will allow the user to have it report itself as a different browser. I have Opera set, as an example, to report itself as IE 6. Why do this? Two main reasons: 1) compatibility and 2) security.
Compatibility: believe it or not, but there are many sites out there that are set to not operate properly if you are not using IE. If you report as being IE, the site'll run perfectly fine, whether you are actually using it or not.
Security: there are sites out there that upon detection, can try and infect your machine with a virus/trojan/hack/whatever. I've got mine set this way to try and catch those attempts. Additionally, if you report something other than what you use, the "attacker" can whack away at you and have a much less likely chance of damaging your system. Its like the theory used by the developers of the Deception Toolkit. This tool allows you to have your machine respond to scans as a different type of machine. For example, my Mac can report itself as being Windows XP. Why? Run XP attacks all you want against my Mac, they won't work.
Anyhow...long answer for a short question ;) I'll stop rambling now :)
-Rob |
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08/21/2004 12:33:07 PM · #18 |
| The reason 85% of your views come from IE, is because most people who buy a computer have IE already installed, and don't know there are better. I use Firefox. The first time you have to spend hours digging through the registry to get rid a home page hijack, you'll never want to use IE again. |
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08/21/2004 12:34:42 PM · #19 |
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08/21/2004 12:36:47 PM · #20 |
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08/21/2004 12:42:26 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by bmatt17:
The reason 85% of your views come from IE, is because most people who buy a computer have IE already installed, and don't know there are better. I use Firefox. The first time you have to spend hours digging through the registry to get rid a home page hijack, you'll never want to use IE again. |
Why spends hours digging through the registry? Simply uninstall the freeware/shareware program that highjacked it in the first place and don't install it again. My Dad visits some site (I don't know and I don't want to know) that installs msbb. I have to remove it about once a month cause he really likes that site. I do like Netscape better than IE except that in some instances it can't open pages or pictures. So I just stick with IE and a free pop-up blocker that works pretty good. |
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08/21/2004 12:50:36 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by dwolff:
Originally posted by bmatt17:
The reason 85% of your views come from IE, is because most people who buy a computer have IE already installed, and don't know there are better. I use Firefox. The first time you have to spend hours digging through the registry to get rid a home page hijack, you'll never want to use IE again. |
Why spends hours digging through the registry? Simply uninstall the freeware/shareware program that highjacked it in the first place and don't install it again. My Dad visits some site (I don't know and I don't want to know) that installs msbb. I have to remove it about once a month cause he really likes that site. I do like Netscape better than IE except that in some instances it can't open pages or pictures. So I just stick with IE and a free pop-up blocker that works pretty good. |
There's a difference between spyware/adware from a installed program, and a home page hi-jack from an exploit in IE. Even after running Ad-aware & spybot, I've had to dig through the registry on numerous occasions fixing peoples PC's. |
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08/21/2004 01:38:32 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by bmatt17:
Originally posted by dwolff:
Originally posted by bmatt17:
The reason 85% of your views come from IE, is because most people who buy a computer have IE already installed, and don't know there are better. I use Firefox. The first time you have to spend hours digging through the registry to get rid a home page hijack, you'll never want to use IE again. |
Why spends hours digging through the registry? Simply uninstall the freeware/shareware program that highjacked it in the first place and don't install it again. My Dad visits some site (I don't know and I don't want to know) that installs msbb. I have to remove it about once a month cause he really likes that site. I do like Netscape better than IE except that in some instances it can't open pages or pictures. So I just stick with IE and a free pop-up blocker that works pretty good. |
There's a difference between spyware/adware from a installed program, and a home page hi-jack from an exploit in IE. Even after running Ad-aware & spybot, I've had to dig through the registry on numerous occasions fixing peoples PC's. |
The only time I've had to edit a registry is if there is a virus that can't be removed any other way. Otherwise I just uninstall the offending program(s) and reset the main page in Internet Options.
I also make sure all the updates are applied because it seems that they find security threats just about every other day.
Message edited by author 2004-08-21 13:45:22. |
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08/21/2004 01:43:11 PM · #24 |
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08/21/2004 01:52:52 PM · #25 |
Safari-
Configured to report itself as IE6 for website compatibility (the web is a Windows bigot).
-J |
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