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08/10/2004 12:22:43 PM · #1 |
I have an idea...
Why not give a certain number of critiques per year/per quarter.
For example, I am someone who hasn't ever asked for a critique, although I know I will at some point. It very much interests me but I want to only use such option when i really am wanting/needing such.
I saw a comment that "everyone" asks for critiques. I guess there are some the opposite of me who check it with every photo submission.
If you were to give a limited number than I think people would only submit it for ones they really want a critique on instead of "hey...it'd be cool to hear what someone else thinks"
I'd be bummed if the first time I actually request a "critique" and really desire it I get passed by on it. =(
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08/10/2004 12:25:39 PM · #2 |
Critique Club is a bit wasted being that they do not have time to critique every image that wants a crtitique (through no fault of the club may I add)
I think it would be better to have 'photographs yet to be critiqued' page which is updated automaticaly after each upload or challenge for each image that has recived zero comments.
That way every image will get at least 1 comment. |
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08/10/2004 01:23:47 PM · #3 |
Removing images that have received above a certain score or received above a certain number of comments would likely reduce the number of images to be critiqued. If someone has an image above the criteria then they can post it in the forums for additional comments. That way those who 'need' the critique more are more likely to get one.
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08/10/2004 01:28:08 PM · #4 |
moodville: I like that idea much more than any of the proposed "credit" systems that I've read about! Much simpler to explain (and implement) too!
Message edited by author 2004-08-10 13:34:01. |
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08/10/2004 01:31:29 PM · #5 |
| Yeah, the above makes sense. I would also add that those that finish high should consider joining the critique club and participate. There is no better way to hone their own skills further. |
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08/10/2004 01:32:00 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by moodville:
Removing images that have received above a certain score or received above a certain number of comments would likely reduce the number of images to be critiqued. If someone has an image above the criteria then they can post it in the forums for additional comments. That way those who 'need' the critique more are more likely to get one. |
This could be done by the Critique Club Member him/herself.
i.e. "Greetings from the critique club.
Since your image received a score of 6.9 and has 42 comments already, I feel a critique should be given on an image that did not reach that level. If you still want further comments, please post it in a forum. Thank you."
/edit spell
Message edited by author 2004-08-10 13:32:41. |
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08/10/2004 01:47:59 PM · #7 |
| I think people could live with this. I've only enter two challenges so far and I'm one of the people who have clicked on both my photos to have them critiqued. My miniature challenge has only had seven comments so far, but one of those really let me see what was wrong with my picture and now I feel I don't need the critique from the club. The only problem is there's no way to go back now and uncheck that box and my photo is still clogging up your system. |
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08/10/2004 01:48:28 PM · #8 |
Does one have to be a paying member to belong to the Critique Club?
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08/10/2004 01:56:31 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by moodville:
Removing images that have received above a certain score or received above a certain number of comments would likely reduce the number of images to be critiqued. If someone has an image above the criteria then they can post it in the forums for additional comments. That way those who 'need' the critique more are more likely to get one. |
I have to disagree with this. This is punishing those who are getting there, but are desprately in need of a little push. For example, in the 'Freedom' challenge my entry recieved 25 comments during the voting. This is the most comments I have yet recieved, and yet only about 6 of them told me what they didn't like about it and even fewer what they though would have worked better. I'm not complaining, I was bouncing with the number of comments that do nothing but praise the image -- but what I really need are comments that take the image apart. A comment from the Critique Club (which I am yet to receive) is the only comment that is certain to be more than an 'I like it' comment -- or at least they should be.
The number of comments isn't nearly as important as their content -- and that is something an automated system can not determine. The only reason I can see for a Critique Club member to pass on an image, is if they honestly do not have anything to add to the image -- when the image is beyond them on the learning curve. At that point, a pass button for the critiquer, that flags it as having being a more advanced image for those in the club with more experience or ability to take a crack at.
David
Maybe I'm missing the point of the critique club.
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08/10/2004 02:00:02 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by boomer:
Does one have to be a paying member to belong to the Critique Club? |
I wouldn't think so, but here is a forum thread that should help (What is the Critique Club?).
David
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08/10/2004 02:10:30 PM · #11 |
I guess Brit has a good point. I was fortunate enough to get a good comment on the picture I mentioned earlier, but I would really love a good critique on my submitted photo for the vanishing point challenge. I know that it is a technically better photo, but I am still hoping to get some useful remarks from it.
If I was fortunate enough to get a high score, say even the top 25 (I can dream can't I), and if I got a hundred (still dreaming) comments saying it was great I would still want someone to break it down so I could see what I did that was right as well as what was wrong.
I think I read somewhere that the club only critiques photos that are currently being voted on. How about if they critique one week later. That way anyone who had already received a good comment or critique from a user during voting could go back and uncheck the box for the club.
Message edited by author 2004-08-10 14:14:19. |
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08/10/2004 02:11:45 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by dwolff:
I think people could live with this. I've only enter two challenges so far and I'm one of the people who have clicked on both my photos to have them critiqued. My miniature challenge has only had seven comments so far, but one of those really let me see what was wrong with my picture and now I feel I don't need the critique from the club. The only problem is there's no way to go back now and uncheck that box and my photo is still clogging up your system. |
Actually there is! But hurry; once voting for the miniature challenge ends tonight it will be too late. Click on your photo on the main page (the same place you go to see the comments people have made so far). Right under the photo is a checkbox labeled "Check this box if you're interested in having your image critiqued by a member of the DPC Critique Club". Uncheck it if you no longer need a critique.
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08/10/2004 02:15:27 PM · #13 |
| Thanks dr rick. Already done. |
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08/10/2004 02:29:32 PM · #14 |
I usually check the box initially, then uncheck if I recieve constructive comments during voting, so I can give others a chance. I also joined to Critique Club to help clear the backlog.
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08/10/2004 02:45:36 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Britannica:
A comment from the Critique Club (which I am yet to receive) is the only comment that is certain to be more than an 'I like it' comment -- or at least they should be.
David
Maybe I'm missing the point of the critique club. |
David: I just posted a CC type critique on your Fredom entry, to give you an idea.... now you have at least one CC critique!
-Tom- |
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08/11/2004 02:08:13 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by photom:
Originally posted by Britannica:
A comment from the Critique Club (which I am yet to receive) is the only comment that is certain to be more than an 'I like it' comment -- or at least they should be.
David
Maybe I'm missing the point of the critique club. |
David: I just posted a CC type critique on your Fredom entry, to give you an idea.... now you have at least one CC critique!
-Tom- |
Thanks, it was unexpected and quite helpful.
David
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08/11/2004 02:47:35 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by moodville:
Removing images that have received above a certain score or received above a certain number of comments would likely reduce the number of images to be critiqued. If someone has an image above the criteria then they can post it in the forums for additional comments. That way those who 'need' the critique more are more likely to get one. |
Makes sense to me but I'd add registered members to the removal list.
Bob
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08/11/2004 06:59:55 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Gurilla:
Makes sense to me but I'd add registered members to the removal list.
Bob |
If you mean registered users, I would not like to see that happen. Many of those who write crititiques are registered users, not paid members... it does not seem fair to tell them that even though they are WRITING critiques, they are not eligible to RECEIVE one. Also I'm not sure how proper it would be for DPC to charge for a service that is actually being provided free by the users.
-Terry
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08/11/2004 07:18:33 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by Gurilla:
Makes sense to me but I'd add registered members to the removal list.
Bob |
If you mean registered users, I would not like to see that happen. Many of those who write crititiques are registered users, not paid members... it does not seem fair to tell them that even though they are WRITING critiques, they are not eligible to RECEIVE one. Also I'm not sure how proper it would be for DPC to charge for a service that is actually being provided free by the users.
-Terry |
Yeah I understand what you are saying, I don't mean that they should be removed completly. I mean they should be removed when the thinning out begins! That would mean that they still have a chance for a photo to be critiqued but only in the first round.
I have asked for many of my photos to be critiqued but non have as yet.
I keep hoping! Not sure what the criteria is for deciding what gets critiqued and what dosen't.
Bob
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08/11/2004 07:40:06 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Gurilla:
I keep hoping! Not sure what the criteria is for deciding what gets critiqued and what dosen't.
Bob |
It's random, except that active critiquers have priority.
-Terry
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